Chess is NOT a sport!!!

Irina KRUSH said in an ARTICLE that chess is indeed A sport. So that's good ENOUGH for me. Also, I heard Garry Kasparov SAY it in HIS own words, THAT chess is a sport. I don't necessarily AGREE with THEM, but they are TWO luminaries who ARE ON that side OF the DISCUSSION.

Ok. This ends here. Does it matter whether or not chess is a sport ??  Some play it as just a game, some play it as a competitive sport.  Some play it casually just as a little pass-time, while some train and work hard to improve their skills to compete in competitions and tournaments to prove themselves. Is chess a sport to you ?.. Whether it is or not. I don't care. It's just how much it means to you.

But what is the definition of sport? That is important.

The ancient Greeks philosophers, and Medieval theologians, up to Witgenstien at Oxford between the Wars, and beyond, would enjoy this debate. The issue is: do essenses exist? That is: are there qualities which are essential to catagories of things, which enable us to form absolute distinctions? The general conclusion, as I read the Western tradition, is: there are no essenses. That is why we cannot determine whether chess is a game or a sport.

 

Another question in the same vein is to try complete this sentence: the absolute, catagorical, difference between humans and animals is....? No one, on my reading, has come up with a decent answer.

That's because humans are animals

Well NM, we covered this in the earlier posts, but it seems the good people of this site think their own opinions outweight the facts from credible sources such as OXFORD, MIRIAM WEBSTER, AMERICAN HERITAGE. So, I will provide yet ANOTHER definition of what chess is and what a sport is from yet ANOTHER reputable source..MICROSOFT ENCARTA ENCYCLOPEDIA.

CHESS: Game of skill and strategy between two people, played using specially designed pieces on a square board comprised of 64 alternating light and dark squares in eight rows of eight squares each. Chess, with a history that extends back thousands of years, is a popular game played around the world.

GAME: Games come in many varieties. They may have any number of players and can be played competitively or cooperatively. They also may involve a wide range of equipment. Some games, such as chess, test players’ analytic skills. Other games, such as darts and electronic games, require hand-eye coordination. Some games are also considered sports, especially when they involve physical skill.

SPORT: Athletic games or contests, played individually or in teams, involving physical strength, skill, and endurance. In the United States, the term is used synonymously with sports; in Britain, however, it refers specifically to track and fieldevents. In general, athletic contests can be divided into contact and noncontact sports.

The mental midgets on this site JUST DONT GET IT. It's all spelled out in black and white. In order for something to be called a sport it MUST MUST MUST, did I say MUST, include physicality. There is ZERO physicality in chess. A bedridden quadrapalegic can be a GM, and that example PROVES there is no physicality in chess.

Cheater_1's troll list now has over 175 names on it. This forum is exposing them left and right.

So I said I'm not playing and I said no and he said no he started counting without because the guy comes and he says isn't for me it's not wet. Yeah well the guy he's never played tennis in his entire life so he comes with his shoes that are not even tennis shoes and he's, he's telling me that I should I'm professional and I know what is wet and it's not no, he's telling me that it's not wet. I mean how, how ridiculous and how, just, uh, the person can be this way and uh, and of course the time is counting and the guy is uh of course he has to prove him to everybody that he is the guy who is ruling and because he is working for ITF so he can uh put me a fine or whatever I will say and what if I am saying something uh with F word or something that he doesn't like then I get a fine and I'm get uh I'm getting um uh the warning and then the penalty point of course I eventually I got a, I got a warning because uh he said that I said F word, I said yeah, whatever, everybody says, so anyway... it was really really pathetic what they did uh today.

Unless you can move the pieces with your toes while performing a handstand, chess is not a sport. It is a game.

Your bolding or the word game seems to imply that it is mutually exclusive with sport.  This cannot be true as football and baseball (I hope we agree that these are sports) are also games.  The definition of game is irrelevent because of the aforementioned.  It was mentioned before in this thread that the Oxford (which I consider the authority on this...and the real oxford not whatever askoxford.com is) definition does not include any mention of physical activity.  Also, I don't care about  being on your troll list because it's not going to affect me in any way.  I think from now on I'm going to bold random words in my posts so people pay attention.

you guys are silly

It's something to do, as I'm not old enough to work where I live and school doesn't start until september.

cheater1 what is the point of this dumb forum? who cares if chess is or isn't a sport,I don't even though it is a sport of the mind

This cartoon explains the need to continue posting in this forum very well!

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C.f. Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations. He uses chess as an example to illustrate varying definitions of 'games' (then extends that to language games), and finds that there is no one definition of a game (read here: game vs. sport). They share 'family resemblances'. This obsessive need for distinction might be symptomatic of the chess mind, but isn't necessarily applicable when you look further into the matter.

 

BTW davidetal, Ludwig was at Cambridge, not Oxford, just so you know.

Thank you, now I can stop thinking about this. Now how do I get this thread off of the "recent thread" list?

Oh right, I stop posting to it.

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (a common name for some card games and board games with little to no element of chance) and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors.

 --- Wikipedia. World renowned source of information.

 

Case closed.

Chess today is a recognized sport of the International Olympic Committee.

Uh oh.

Well the motto of the olympics is "Citius, Altius, Fortius"; which means, "Faster, Higher, Stronger" - so there could be a speed chess round (citius), a boxing chess round (fortius), and heck, a cannabis chess round (altius). Ross Rebagliati could double medal then. Not sure how the IOC would "test" the "athletes" though.