Chess Originated In Africa

  • #101

    It's a little disingenuous to speak of the ethnicity of the ancient Egyptians as being the same as sub-Saharan Africans as if this were a settled fact -- the topic is one that's still being discussed -- and it's worse to tar anyone who claims that they weren't as racist. Either way, we're still some way from establishing that a board game played in ancient Egypt bears any relation to chess.

  • #102

    The earliest predecessor of the game " probably" originated from India. Before the 6th century AD; a minority of historians believed the game originated in China. From India, the gamegame spread to Persia. When the Arabs conquered Persia, Chess was taken up the Muslim world and subsequently spread to Southern Europe where chess evolved into roughly its current form in the 15th century. The game be traced back some 1500 years.

  • #103

    Fun facts: a recent survey shows that about 605 million people play chess regularly. Chess is played at least once a year by 12% of British, 15% of Americans, 23% of Germans, 43% of Russians and 70% of Indians.

  • #104
    Original name Modern name Version Original move
    king king all as now
    adviser queen all one square diagonally, only
    elephant bishop Persia and west two squares diagonally (no more or less), but could jump over a piece between
    an old Indian version two squares sideways or front-and-back (no more or less), but could jump over a piece between
    southeast and east Asia one square diagonally, or one square forwards, like four legs and trunk of elephant
    horse knight all as now
    chariot rook all as now
    foot-soldier pawn all one square forwards (not two), capturing one square diagonally forward; promoted to queen only
  • #105
    I have played Chinese Chess, and it has enough similar moves that it is clearly a related game. Either the source, or more probably shares a common source with modern chess
  • #106
    isabela14 wrote:

    Fun facts: a recent survey shows that about 605 million people play chess regularly. Chess is played at least once a year by 12% of British, 15% of Americans, 23% of Germans, 43% of Russians and 70% of Indians.

    I really doubt such numbers, especially the last one, nearly impossible.

  • #107

    eygpt is on the african landspace, but eygpt is not african.

    do not confuse culture with land.

    dirt is not culture.

  • #108

    senet was a game board of two lines of play.

    it was a stronger play of mancala, also a game of two lines of play.

    the geometry of chess rose out of india, thru persia into europe.

    to ask the origin of chess is not to seek the historical origin but rather to look to the players who have made and make chess what it is.

    it is the men and women of chess which is chess.

  • #109

    i personally believe it originated in India.My perspective though.

  • #110

    let us be clear.

    if anyone has the integrity to claim chess it is the iranian  ( persian ) for the way it is understood today, although it came fundamentally from india.

    when the last russian tsar family was imprisoned by the communists the child of nicholas used to play "kill the shah" as this poor child was sickly and could not leave his bed.  the game "kill the shah" was in fact the game of chess.  to understand the history of the game as it came into russia is to understand that the imperial family of russia did not rename the game of chess as to "kill the tsar" would have been an uncomfortable renaming.  the imperial russian family kept the name of the name that they had been taught, to "kill the shah" ( the shah being the imperial lord of old persia ).

    chess came out of india with limited bishops and queens and in the post-crusdader european period the queen and the bishops became more powerful across the board...hence, modern western chess.

  • #111

    india is the mother nation of chess ( chatruanga ) thru persia ( persia not not muslim iran ) and then thru the kurdish warrior who led the struggle to take acra and jerusalem via the islamic religion it passed thru the Crusaders into europe.

    india is the mother of chess.

    pre-muslim egypt has not stake in this game.  muslims, who ran over eygpt in the 7th century brought science, art, religion and persian chess to eygpt.

    why has there been no eygpytian or muslim great chess grandmasters in the last two centuries ?

    why has most of the great chessman of the world in the last two hundred years come from the west ? ( and the jews of europe are the "west" ).

  • #112

    China

  • #113

    new jersey.

    ( one can say anything cannot one if one offers no proof, hence the meaning of "fake news" and in this case "fake post".

  • #114

    the origin of this post initially is false.

    it is false to equate eygpt with islam.

    islam overran egypt in the 7th century a.d.

    before that time, islam had nothing to do with egypt for islam was not invented until the 7th century.

    it is as simple as that.

  • #115

    Ra-Neter signs his name on his page in arabic.

    arabic came to eygpt with the muslim horde.

    Ra-Neter is muslim and not an ethnic egyptian..but an occupier of land he does not own ( sound like arabs who say the same thing against the jews ? )

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