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Chess Originated In Africa

  • #121

     before you make a comment.  i ask.

    are you over forty ?

    have you read at least one hundred books ?

    do you sit and think or do you think after you have read what others think 

     do you wish to be yourself or to belong to those who approve of you ?

  • #122
    moldycrow wrote:

     before you make a comment.  i ask.

    are you over forty ?

    have you read at least one hundred books ?

    do you sit and think or do you think after you have read what others think 

     do you wish to be yourself or to belong to those who approve of you ?

    Are you able to answer the topic or do you need this question to complain about people you don't know?

  • #123

    i am able to answer to my ability to any query asked.

    i may complain about the general public as i will for they are a most foolish flotsam.

  • #124

    do you know the meaning of "flotsam" ? without using google, but rather your own education ?.

  • #125
    moldycrow wrote:

    i am able to answer to my ability to any query asked.

    i may complain about the general public as i will for they are a most foolish flotsam.

    Are you egocentric?

  • #126

    it is not a mirror i uphold unto myself.

    it is a sign for those who seek to see.

  • #127

    be of the love of self and not the distaste of others.

  • #128

    Sounds like the place where chess originated is unknown.

  • #129

    phpyvdyH6.jpegAfricans playing chess in 13th century Moorish Spain...

     

  • #130

    For the guy who says the race of the ancient Egyptians is still not known. Let's see ,DNA Tribes did an analysis on the Amarna mummies and said they clustered closely with modern day Bantus and African Americans. Hawass released the DNA results of RAMSES 3 and he was YDNA E1B1A , the most common haplogroup in  Southern Africans and Africans from the Great Lakes region. And then the ancient Egyptians left thousand of paintings and statues that show what they look like. And we should still debate what race they belonged to? And you say you aren't racist? Really? phpkrs80K.jpeg

     

    Above is the painting of the mayor of Thebes and his wife..

  • #131

    Ancient Africans from Egypt playing Senet... phpKj9wyR.jpeg

  • #132

    I think the question is whether Senet was the origin of chess or not. I am not sure because India and China had similar board games. Who came first? Is there anyone mature enough to answer this without " Africa bashing"? I wonder. Below is an ancient African Queen playing Senet. 

    phpYjyzhZ.jpeg

  • #133

    Gil-Gandel Gil-Gandel
    #101
    "It's a little disingenuous to speak of the ethnicity of the ancient Egyptians as being the same as sub-Saharan Africans as if this were a settled fact -- the topic is one that's still being discussed -- and it's worse to tar anyone who claims that they weren't as racist. Either way, we're still some way from establishing that a board game played in ancient Egypt bears any relation to chess."

     

    http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

     

    The DNA results were released 5 years ago by DNA tribes and Egyptian Minstry of antiquities. What's left the debate? 

  • #134

    It is a scientific fact that every human on Earth is the direct descendant of one of no more than three woman. Further, we are genetically not just "all brothers", but practically clones of one another!

     

    There is far greater genetic diversity between cousins in a troop of twenty-five baboons than between the blackest Australian aborigine and the palest Swedish bikini model. 

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    The concept of "race" is a cultural construct with absolutely no scientific foundation whatsoever.  The paucity of genetic diversity among humans strongly suggests that the human race was virtually exterminated at some time in the near geological past, perhaps down to no more than 100,000 individuals or even fewer.

     

    So, who invented chess?... No matter who you are, the answer is "we did".

  • #135
    Marcokim escreveu:

    The term sub-saharan Africa is a recent concept of simplifying the Arabic north and the non-Arabic south.

     

    "Sub-Saharan Africa" clearly refers to the subsoil of the desert.

  • #136

    some time before the 7th century, being derived from the Indian game of chaturanga

    the senet gameboard is a grid of 30 squares

  • #137

    Chess Originated In INDIA

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chess

    chess originated in India during the Gupta Empire. There, its early form in the 6th century was known as chaturaṅga, which translates as "four divisions (of the military)": infantry, cavalry, elephantry, and chariotry. These forms are represented by the pieces that would evolve into the modern pawn, knight, bishop, and rook, respectively.[5] According to chess historians Gerhard Josten and Isaak Linder, "the early beginnings" of chess can be traced back to the Kushan Empire in Ancient Afghanistan, circa 50 BCE–200 CE.

    Chess was introduced to Persia from India and became a part of the princely or courtly education of Persian nobility.[8] In Sassanid Persia around 600 the name became chatrang, which subsequently evolved to shatranj, due to Arab Muslims' lack of ch and ng native sounds,[9] and the rules were developed further. Players started calling "Shāh!" (Persian for "King!") when attacking the opponent's king, and "Shāh Māt!" (Persian for "the king is helpless" – see checkmate) when the king was attacked and could not escape from attack. These exclamations persisted in chess as it traveled to other lands...

    (for full History click on the link)

  • #138
    AkshayChougule wrote:

    Chess Originated In INDIA

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chess

    chess originated in India during the Gupta Empire. There, its early form in the 6th century was known as chaturaṅga, which translates as "four divisions (of the military)": infantry, cavalry, elephantry, and chariotry. These forms are represented by the pieces that would evolve into the modern pawn, knight, bishop, and rook, respectively.[5] According to chess historians Gerhard Josten and Isaak Linder, "the early beginnings" of chess can be traced back to the Kushan Empire in Ancient Afghanistan, circa 50 BCE–200 CE.

    Chess was introduced to Persia from India and became a part of the princely or courtly education of Persian nobility.[8] In Sassanid Persia around 600 the name became chatrang, which subsequently evolved to shatranj, due to Arab Muslims' lack of ch and ng native sounds,[9] and the rules were developed further. Players started calling "Shāh!" (Persian for "King!") when attacking the opponent's king, and "Shāh Māt!" (Persian for "the king is helpless" – see checkmate) when the king was attacked and could not escape from attack. These exclamations persisted in chess as it traveled to other lands...

    (for full History click on the link)

     

    Wikipedia tolerates neither ambiguity nor nuanced discussion of evidence. It wants general knowledge that is broadly known, even if this "knowledge" lacks sufficient evidence for certainty.

     

    Historians do not know with certainly that chess originated in India, but it is possible to rule out Africa, including the Greek province of Egypt. Chess originated in Asia. Probably India; possibly Persia or China.

  • #139

    yeah maybe...but..

    Even when here also on Chess.com...

    When you start Lessons section : 

    Read on THE First Lesson, First page itself gives introduction about Chess...it's clearly written that; "Chess originated in India" 

    u can check if u want.. bt i hv remember 1st Lesson...

     

    so after reading various sources, m sure that Chess Originated In INDIA !

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