In yesterday's Chess.com/TV Show: "Pardon Our Blunders" we debated about who the next World Chess Champion is going to be. As many people already feel that this is "Magnus's World" and we are merely living in it -- Carlsen is not an option. Some mentioned candidates were:
So, now that David and I can't dominate the conversation -- Watcha think???
Aronian will be the next World Champion. Caruana will be his first challenger, after the rematch clause, and Carlen's defeat in the Candidates Matches in 2014
All good points...
I am one who believes that Anand will hold on longer than people think (David is absolutely head over heals for Carlsen though)!!!
I personally don't feel that Karjakin is as strong as Carlsen though (and he just doesn't have that X factor)...
Aronian??? Interesting point... Maybe!
A discussion about future world champs without bothering about the 20 year old with the 2800 rating?
Bit like if it were 1983 and we ruled out Kasparov. Which is to say, hardly worth talking about at all, since the answer is a slam dunk for the next decade unless Magnus gives up the game.
Gives up for modeling maybe??? You're saying I have a shot (one in a million)...
I didnt quite understand why Carlsen isint an option???!!!
Only because he seems to be a shoe in for the next World Champion... basically, the discussion is this: "Who is the next World Champion after Carlsen?" Kind of a weird point, I agree, because he isn't champion yet! But hey, I don't make the decisions, I just work here !!! Joking of course, but let's all just play along...
I believe that the next champion is most probably an old champion (Anand, Kramnik, Topalov) or possibly Carlsen. But if we look at the list from post #1 I think that Anish Giri has impressed me the most - he appears to have that "X factor". Amazingly this young guy is already one of the better game commentators around. Honest, hard working approach for game analysis (and not just computerized opening analysis) is very promissing sign and was for example typical of Kasparov.
I also find it bit strange that Naka is listed but Karjakin isn't - I seem to recall they are about the same age and I feel that so far Karjakin has achieved more in classical chess. I think Naka needs first to cut down his bullet play, start taking preparation more seriously and gain more experience from elite tournaments before he can be seriously considered a candidate.
P.S. During recent wch match team Anand received outside help from Kasparov, Kramnik, Carlsen and ... Giri. What should we make of this!?
it was phrased as who has the best chance to be the next world champ after Carlsen. if the question were just which player who is not yet world champion has the best chance to become world champ there would have been nothing for Danny and i to discuss since we both obviously realize it's Carlsen.
so Carlsen was mentioned in the discussion... in the topic. but the more interesting question is which of these other guys has what it takes to become world champ? or if you think Carlsen will dominate for 10 years or more, maybe you want to pick a 10 year old we haven't mentioned!
There are so many strong young players these days... Maybe Ilya Nyzhnyk is one name that might be worth mentioning.
I don't forsee a young English chessplayer entering the 2700+ scene any time soon... the best hopes we have seem to be Yang-Fan Zhou, a 15 year old with 225 ECF (i.e. about 2450 FIDE) and Felix Ynojosa, a 14 year old with 215 ECF (i.e. about 2370 FIDE); maybe they will break 2700, but World Champion is a bit of a stretch...
ECF is a joke.
BTW, Danny, you are already the unofficial World Champion. There is no need to make it official.
That makes me think of that old song about an ant, and a rubber tree plant.
Are you talking about the gradings, or the organisation in general? Because I'll agree that the ECF is not doing too well for itself; there is nothing wrong with the grading, however. It remains accurate (at least within our own pool; and the conversions for higher grades are also quite close).
Great stuff... Too bad we don't have more opinions coming. Just so you guys know, I did mentioned Karjakin in the actual TV show, I just forgot to mention him here. In fact, I accompanied my mentioning of him with an awesome joke about how "Kar-Ja-Kin" will be a candidate as soon as he leaves hi life of crime... Anyway, it was funny...
I liked So for a couple reasons:
So is clearly not a front runner, but hey, let's stay open minded (unlike one David Pruess )
None of the players mentioned really have been consistent enough where you can say they have a real shot. So I'm going to go with Yifan Hou.
Karjakin has to be a stronger player than any of the guys listed, though perhaps less flashy, and flashiness = impressiveness = potential, at least in our minds. The thing to note about Karjakin, though, is that he's recently gotten married and switched federations from Ukraine to Russia. I don't know whether this is going to help or hurt him or have no big impact, but it definitely seems like it COULD be a factor.
Giri seems the MOST likely here, though it's a little hard to tell how much of that is due to the media hype surrounding him. Other names off the list that have to be considered: I agree with putting Ilya Nyzhnyk in the watch list, also Richard Rapport, and Parimarjan Negi.