Convincing people to resign in online chess.

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Suggo

But those people who do believe that it is the right thing to do should do it...and leave those who don't alone to play the game how they want to play it.

erikido23

Sometimes I will retort isn't all of blacks/whites fun over yet? 

ilikeflags
Suggo wrote:

But those people who do believe that it is the right thing to do should do it...and leave those who don't alone to play the game how they want to play it.


or they should just get with the program and embrace the spirit of the game and resign.

ilikeflags
AnthonyCG wrote:
Chess attracts not only the honorable player...

so so true...  i think it's important to tip people off.

Suggo
ilikeflags wrote:
Suggo wrote:

But those people who do believe that it is the right thing to do should do it...and leave those who don't alone to play the game how they want to play it.


or they should just get with the program and embrace the spirit of the game and resign.


or they should get with the program and embrace everyones right to continue and truely embrace the spirit of the game by letting each person decide for themselves without judgement!

ilikeflags
Suggo wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:
Suggo wrote:

But those people who do believe that it is the right thing to do should do it...and leave those who don't alone to play the game how they want to play it.


or they should just get with the program and embrace the spirit of the game and resign.


or they should get with the program and embrace everyones right to continue and truely embrace the spirit of the game by letting each person decide for themselves without judgement!


or they should get with the program and embrace the spirit of the game and resign.

i have said this at least 20 times at chess.com: if you have a chance to win (and i mean a REAL chance)--play on.  play on silly girl (boy).  however, if your poisition is lost (and i mean LOST) and you don't resign, you are either a total jerk (i'd have harsher words but big brother would delete them enayway) or a total imbecile.  if imbecile be it, then someone needs to tell you.  if jerk...  then you deserve my 4 queens to make you suffer.

CPawn

Can someone show me the rule that states that someone needs to resign simply because your opponent says you need to?

ozzie_c_cobblepot

It is exceedingly poor form to ask an opponent to resign.

Suggo
ilikeflags wrote:
Suggo wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:
Suggo wrote:

But those people who do believe that it is the right thing to do should do it...and leave those who don't alone to play the game how they want to play it.


or they should just get with the program and embrace the spirit of the game and resign.


or they should get with the program and embrace everyones right to continue and truely embrace the spirit of the game by letting each person decide for themselves without judgement!


or they should get with the program and embrace the spirit of the game and resign.

i have said this at least 20 times at chess.com: if you have a chance to win (and i mean a REAL chance)--play on.  play on silly girl (boy).  however, if your poisition is lost (and i mean LOST) and you don't resign, you are either a total jerk (i'd have harsher words but big brother would delete them enayway) or a total imbecile.  if imbecile be it, then someone needs to tell you.  if jerk...  then you deserve my 4 queens to make you suffer.


So because people don't share your view on the subject they are either imbeciles or jerks!  That is certainly embracing the spirit of the game.  Interesting.

So allowing others to have their own stance on what they would like/think they should do isn't part of your idea of spirit of the game.

If the other players has reasons behind continuing that obviously doesn't matter to you either...

Well I can see why we should all abide by what you consider is in the "Spirit of the game"!Undecided

Tongue outCool

erikido23
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

It is exceedingly poor form to ask an opponent to resign.


 I would completely agree in tournament play.

 

However, in a friendly I will sometimes ask if they feel it necessary to play it out?  Why not move onto the next game...I do have a limited amount of time and it would be more enjoyable for both sides I would think(If the other person doesn't know its lost thats a whole different story.  But, the ones that know they are lost and trod on and know how it irks me..I don't have all the time in the world) if we started a new game as opposed to played out a 2 rooks and a queen vs 2 bishops. 

Suggo
erikido23 wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

It is exceedingly poor form to ask an opponent to resign.


 I would completely agree in tournament play.

 

However, in a friendly I will sometimes ask if they feel it necessary to play it out?  Why not move onto the next game...I do have a limited amount of time and it would be more enjoyable for both sides I would think(If the other person doesn't know its lost thats a whole different story.  But, the ones that know they are lost and trod on and know how it irks me..I don't have all the time in the world) if we started a new game as opposed to played out a 2 rooks and a queen vs 2 bishops. 


If it is just a friendly then why not just resign yourself if you want the game to finish?

CPawn
Suggo wrote:
erikido23 wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

It is exceedingly poor form to ask an opponent to resign.


 I would completely agree in tournament play.

 

However, in a friendly I will sometimes ask if they feel it necessary to play it out?  Why not move onto the next game...I do have a limited amount of time and it would be more enjoyable for both sides I would think(If the other person doesn't know its lost thats a whole different story.  But, the ones that know they are lost and trod on and know how it irks me..I don't have all the time in the world) if we started a new game as opposed to played out a 2 rooks and a queen vs 2 bishops. 


If it is just a friendly then why not just resign yourself if you want the game to finish?


So very well said!

erikido23

Have you ever thought about resigning a winning position? 

5pin

erikido, I do so often in casual games.  If my opponent is losing a queen + king vs king endgame, I may just resign the game right then.  Them "winning" couldn't matter less to me.

Ozzie: "It is exceedingly poor form to ask an opponent to resign."

True, and I know I use bad form when I'm online sometimes, but I don't really care.  I would rather increase my chances of a worthless game being over with then worry about how polite a stranger thought I was.  They will get over it.

TheGrobe

I'm playing in a tournament in which I've clinched my group in the first round depite the fact that there is a player in the group who's constantly on vacation and hasn't finished a single game in the tournament despite it being at the 80% complete mark.

It's occurred to me that I could resign both of those games and still advance, but I just can't bring myself to do it.  So thought about it, yes.  Thought about it seriously?  No.

TheGrobe

I've another game right now that is R+Q vs B and my opponent seems bent on making a single move every three days despite their clearly lost position.  Frustrating, but all I can do is to try to expedite the finish.  I'm not going to bother to give them the satisfaction of knowing that it irks me by saying something.

erikido23
5pin wrote:

erikido, I do so often in casual games.  If my opponent is losing a queen + king vs king endgame, I may just resign the game right then.  Them "winning" couldn't matter less to me.

Ozzie: "It is exceedingly poor form to ask an opponent to resign."

True, and I know I use bad form when I'm online sometimes, but I don't really care.  I would rather increase my chances of a worthless game being over with then worry about how polite a stranger thought I was.  They will get over it.


 It wasn't that I would "lose" is thing. That thought just never passes my mind. 

kensai

In a lost position against an opponent above 300+points from me, sure, I'll resign.

An opponent my score? No way!

I resigned and got the 'why did you resign'? I then realized that they had no clue what I was looking at and no idea of how to attack. I've since played games (chess.com) that I could see the mate in 5 against me, yet due to mistakes I ended up winning the game.

So, do I resign? It depends on more than simply the position, it also depends on the opponent. I have resigned when it became apparent that my opponent had a clearly won position, that there was no longer a chance of stalemate, AND that opponent had shown me a stellar attack so far in the game. Otherwise, everybody makes mistakes, and the winner is the next-to-last to make a mistake!

Wink

erikido23
TheGrobe wrote:

I've another game right now that is R+Q vs B and my opponent seems bent on making a single move every three days despite their clearly lost position.  Frustrating, but all I can do is to try to expedite the finish.  I'm not going to bother to give them the satisfaction of knowing that it irks me by saying something.


 Its less annoying to me online(cc).  I can just come back in another couple days and make my move(I would have been here anyways. 

On the other hand when I am playing otb with people I often times only have about a half hour(and for some strange reason most people love to play against me)to play before I go to work.  It really is mostly a time issue.  I do suggest that I can get in more games if resignable positions are resigned(They are after all the ones asking me the favor to play them.  If I play a higher rated player and am lost I resign.  I don't want to waste their time either).  Most people understand that and are reasonable(in friendlies)

 

Again a tournament would be a whole other issue and time wouldn't be an issue(I would be "stuck" there anyways) and I would never even suggest that to someone in a tournament. 

5pin

"Two wrongs don't make a right"

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