Could you beat Magnus Carlsen if he had no castling rights?

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Could you beat Magnus Carlsen if he had no castling rights?

Pashak1989

carlsen would beat us even without a queen

JamesColeman

I'd get annihilated endlessly without him even getting out of second gear. Not castling isn't that big a deal when the gulf in strength is that huge.

AussieMatey

No, No-o and No-o-o.

Wou_Rem

Depends! If he starts without rooks he can´t castle. I might win that one.

bbeltkyle89
Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

Depends! If he starts without rooks he can´t castle. I might win that one.

lol...sorry but if your only advantage is a couple pieces that are generally last to come out anyways...id have to say you dont stand a chance. Id imagine you will get your queen forked before your rooks even can come in to make a difference.

Pulpofeira

I bet I could reach the g file with my king before he does.

ThrillerFan
VicountVonJames wrote:
No, no,no, no, no, no, no, yes, no, no, no,


NO.

why?

Magnus Carslon could beat most of us if he didn't have any rooks or Knights!

 

I beg to differ.  Even if I'm Black and Magnus goes first, if you remove both White Knights and both White Rooks, I'd slap Magnus silly!

 

16 points in material is easily enough for a 2100 player to take down any GM or any 3400 rated artificial intelligence!

Pulpofeira

Well, he said most of us. For most of us 2100 sounds stratospherical.

krudsparov

Pashak1989 wrote:

carlsen would beat us even without a queen

What!!!!!! A full queen is an huge...HUGE advantage, any fairly decent player should beat him a queen up.

JamesColeman

To put it into perspective, back in 2001 Kasparov played an odds match against a strong amateur at the time rated about 2150. Kasparov started each game two pawns down, and narrowly won the match 2.5-1.5. 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1317037/Kasparov-makes-it-a-knight-to-remember.html

 

So yeah, some of the odds being suggested are clearly out of touch with reality.

FaceCrusher

No. Any of us would be done before he needed to castle. 

AussieMatey

Some players here would be done before he started setting up his first row.

DjonniDerevnja

There are several openings where castling is not done. Castlingrights is not enough.

MickinMD

If you understand chess well enough to understand why Carlsen is far better at chess that those of us who comment here, you'll understand he can beat anyone here without castling as well as with Knight or bigger odds.

jefsch70

In a 13th century battle....Yes!

Chess... It would be over in 6 moves.....

ThrillerFan

I can beat him easily with 2-for-1 pawn odds.  I get White, and I have to shed my e-pawn, he has to shed his f- and g-pawns.

 

Bet ya I win!

knighttour2

Magnus beat IM Lawrence Trent in a blitz match where Trent got rook odds.  No chance for any of us

Pashak1989
krudsparov escribió:

Pashak1989 wrote:

carlsen would beat us even without a queen

What!!!!!! A full queen is an huge...HUGE advantage, any fairly decent player should beat him a queen up.

 

Ok, play a handicap match against stockfish. Tell me how you did. 

nimzomalaysian
ThrillerFan wrote:

I can beat him easily with 2-for-1 pawn odds.  I get White, and I have to shed my e-pawn, he has to shed his f- and g-pawns.

 

Bet ya I win!