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FIDE World Championship - Magnus Carlsen vs Ian Nepomniactchi

Jenium
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the best explanation is often the simplest. Round 6 got to his head and coudnt shake it off

SO like me on lichess today, spiraling straight down 200 points which is almost like 400 on chess.com lol, just saying screw it and throwing matches on purpose out of spite and emotional fervor.  If I was him I'd take the money and run.  Time to find a new career.  Probably the only pay out he is gonna get for years to come.

200? lmao , thats quite a swing.  I have dropped maybe 60-70 points on a really bad day when i shoudnt be playing. the dumbest points i lose is when i ate a big often big carb meal and my performance just crashes for the next few hours, and i keep playing hope to regain lost ground. This is pretty much why i starve myself on tournament games.

i spent so long trying to find the perfect formula for that alert "in the zone" feeling, and i have had some success in finding what is more likely to trigger it but its not always something you can control

-cold showers

-certain coffees seem to work better than other

-brisk walking for 5-10 minutes before a game, esp if early in the morning

-low to no food

-nootropics
-solid sleep , but not too much melatonin.

interestingly, of all the above, brisk walking has been maybe the best ,followed by the food. everything else has been hit or miss. 

ya i'm about to give it up man.  I need to find a new hobby.  

How about dancing? But may I suggest that you don't tell the ladies there that they are all  sociopaths with a severe personality disorder. wink.png

Pulpofeira

He won't dare, surely he'll keep it to himself.

CooloutAC
Jenium wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the best explanation is often the simplest. Round 6 got to his head and coudnt shake it off

SO like me on lichess today, spiraling straight down 200 points which is almost like 400 on chess.com lol, just saying screw it and throwing matches on purpose out of spite and emotional fervor.  If I was him I'd take the money and run.  Time to find a new career.  Probably the only pay out he is gonna get for years to come.

200? lmao , thats quite a swing.  I have dropped maybe 60-70 points on a really bad day when i shoudnt be playing. the dumbest points i lose is when i ate a big often big carb meal and my performance just crashes for the next few hours, and i keep playing hope to regain lost ground. This is pretty much why i starve myself on tournament games.

i spent so long trying to find the perfect formula for that alert "in the zone" feeling, and i have had some success in finding what is more likely to trigger it but its not always something you can control

-cold showers

-certain coffees seem to work better than other

-brisk walking for 5-10 minutes before a game, esp if early in the morning

-low to no food

-nootropics
-solid sleep , but not too much melatonin.

interestingly, of all the above, brisk walking has been maybe the best ,followed by the food. everything else has been hit or miss. 

ya i'm about to give it up man.  I need to find a new hobby.  

How about dancing? But may I suggest that you don't tell the ladies there that they are all  sociopaths with a severe personality disorder.

I call it like  I see it bud.   snobby sociopaths,  or severe personality disorders.  I mean pretty much every stereotype about chess players is true for the majority.   Its pretty disappointing.  

And  dancing is not an option.  I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport.   I might buy the new battlefield game,  but the fact they added grappling hook and people flying from rooftops looks kind of corny to me.  Plus I hear its very buggy and my computer is showing its age now..  I'm still on the fence about it.   Wish they had trials to try like the told days.

blueemu
CooloutAC wrote:
 
I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport

Have you tried any of the single-player games published on Steam by Paradox?

Hearts of Iron IV 

Europa Universalis IV

Crusader Kings III

Stellaris

They are very addictive, and are almost entirely skill-based... luck plays a minor role, just enough to make each play-through unique.

CooloutAC
blueemu wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
 
I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport

Have you tried any of the single-player games published on Steam by Paradox?

Hearts of Iron IV 

Europa Universalis IV

Crusader Kings III

Stellaris

They are very addictive, and are almost entirely skill-based... luck plays a minor role, just enough to make each play-through unique.

I'll have to check them out.  thanks. Oh wait singleplayer?  I prefer multiplayers.

oh you were a quakeplayer.   the new battlefield reminds me of when they introducted grappling hook mods in q2 and the bunny hopping became so exploited and they made rockets too slow.   I skipped over that one and waited for q3 which was way better and legendary.   I'm so disappointed I might have to skip this new battlefield and hope it gets less corny next year.

blueemu
CooloutAC wrote:

I'll have to check them out.  thanks. Oh wait singleplayer?  I prefer multiplayers.

All four of those games have both single-player and multi-player functionality.

thebully99

Carlsen finishes this with a 4-point margin. If not in Game 11, then in Game 12.

hoodoothere
CooloutAC wrote:
Jenium wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the best explanation is often the simplest. Round 6 got to his head and coudnt shake it off

SO like me on lichess today, spiraling straight down 200 points which is almost like 400 on chess.com lol, just saying screw it and throwing matches on purpose out of spite and emotional fervor.  If I was him I'd take the money and run.  Time to find a new career.  Probably the only pay out he is gonna get for years to come.

200? lmao , thats quite a swing.  I have dropped maybe 60-70 points on a really bad day when i shoudnt be playing. the dumbest points i lose is when i ate a big often big carb meal and my performance just crashes for the next few hours, and i keep playing hope to regain lost ground. This is pretty much why i starve myself on tournament games.

i spent so long trying to find the perfect formula for that alert "in the zone" feeling, and i have had some success in finding what is more likely to trigger it but its not always something you can control

-cold showers

-certain coffees seem to work better than other

-brisk walking for 5-10 minutes before a game, esp if early in the morning

-low to no food

-nootropics
-solid sleep , but not too much melatonin.

interestingly, of all the above, brisk walking has been maybe the best ,followed by the food. everything else has been hit or miss. 

ya i'm about to give it up man.  I need to find a new hobby.  

How about dancing? But may I suggest that you don't tell the ladies there that they are all  sociopaths with a severe personality disorder.

I call it like  I see it bud.   snobby sociopaths,  or severe personality disorders.  I mean pretty much every stereotype about chess players is true for the majority.   Its pretty disappointing.  

And  dancing is not an option.  I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport.   I might buy the new battlefield game,  but the fact they added grappling hook and people flying from rooftops looks kind of corny to me.  Plus I hear its very buggy and my computer is showing its age now..  I'm still on the fence about it.   Wish they had trials to try like the told days.

What about Scrabble? People that are crappy at math tend to be better at word sports.  Also on-line poker? Less math there, and more people skills, although you do have to know the basic odds.

Optimissed
CooloutAC wrote:
Jenium wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the best explanation is often the simplest. Round 6 got to his head and coudnt shake it off

SO like me on lichess today, spiraling straight down 200 points which is almost like 400 on chess.com lol, just saying screw it and throwing matches on purpose out of spite and emotional fervor.  If I was him I'd take the money and run.  Time to find a new career.  Probably the only pay out he is gonna get for years to come.

200? lmao , thats quite a swing.  I have dropped maybe 60-70 points on a really bad day when i shoudnt be playing. the dumbest points i lose is when i ate a big often big carb meal and my performance just crashes for the next few hours, and i keep playing hope to regain lost ground. This is pretty much why i starve myself on tournament games.

i spent so long trying to find the perfect formula for that alert "in the zone" feeling, and i have had some success in finding what is more likely to trigger it but its not always something you can control

-cold showers

-certain coffees seem to work better than other

-brisk walking for 5-10 minutes before a game, esp if early in the morning

-low to no food

-nootropics
-solid sleep , but not too much melatonin.

interestingly, of all the above, brisk walking has been maybe the best ,followed by the food. everything else has been hit or miss. 

ya i'm about to give it up man.  I need to find a new hobby.  

How about dancing? But may I suggest that you don't tell the ladies there that they are all  sociopaths with a severe personality disorder.

I call it like  I see it bud.   snobby sociopaths,  or severe personality disorders.  I mean pretty much every stereotype about chess players is true for the majority.   Its pretty disappointing.  

And  dancing is not an option.  I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport.   I might buy the new battlefield game,  but the fact they added grappling hook and people flying from rooftops looks kind of corny to me.  Plus I hear its very buggy and my computer is showing its age now..  I'm still on the fence about it.   Wish they had trials to try like the told days.

One thing I've noticed is that I play better when slightly dehydrated and when I'm trying to concentrate on chess, I prefer keeping drinks to small quantities of water, tea or coffee. I've got this theory that too much fluid alters the electrolyte balance which in turn alters the ability to concentrate.

korotky_trinity
Stil1 wrote:

I don't understand the blunders he has made, either ... but I also don't know how it feels to be on a World Championship stage.

I think the most logical explanation is that he was calculating complicated lines, likely far ahead ... and simply missed the more obvious responses.

And that's probably a result of playing against an opponent like Magnus, who seems to have an answer for everything. You begin looking really far ahead, trying to dodge bullets before they've even been fired ... and that kind of hyper-concern can start to mess with your head.

 

Also: sorry to hear about your lost points and frustration. I know the feeling.

I made it a soft rule to stop playing for the day if I lose 2 games in a row. It can save your sanity. You can also review your games, to see what mistakes you can learn from. There might be some insights in there that can help you moving forward.

But today Nepo did not blunder at last.

Though...  it seens to me that he played too carefully.

I noticed one good move with his Rook... but he didn"t it... and he moved the King instead of that.

jetoba
hoodoothere wrote:

What about Scrabble? People that are bad at math tend to be better at word sports.  Also on-line poker? Less math there, and more people skills, although you do have to know the basic odds.

A well played scrabble game often involves math and managing probabilities.

I know players who competed regularly with their games being decided by whether or not one player's better tile management garnered a second 7-letter/50-point bonus to offset the other player's better word knowledge and probable single 50-point bonus.

 

korotky_trinity
CooloutAC wrote:

Ya i mean i use to think it was the myth that they are smarter then a society who is too dumb to understand the game.  So they just have superiority complexes and act snobby because they grew up in these chess clubs perpetuating that self fulfilling prophecy.   But I now I think it has to do maintaining total focus on the game, because any little distraction and it all comes crashing down very easily.     So they learn to be heartless and cold blooded not letting anything get to them.  I definitely sense that in magnus.     I mean does anyone else think this guy Nepo is extremely good natured and normal?  I can't think of another top professional chess player who is.  I've grown to really like the guy and feel bad I've been rooting for Magnus lol.

Of course Nepo is normal guy.

He said he like to play football with friends in Moscow.

But... as you mentioned other ones... Gary Kasparov is quite normal at my taste of normality... too.

Why he isn't?

ricorat
korotky_trinity wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:

Ya i mean i use to think it was the myth that they are smarter then a society who is too dumb to understand the game.  So they just have superiority complexes and act snobby because they grew up in these chess clubs perpetuating that self fulfilling prophecy.   But I now I think it has to do maintaining total focus on the game, because any little distraction and it all comes crashing down very easily.     So they learn to be heartless and cold blooded not letting anything get to them.  I definitely sense that in magnus.     I mean does anyone else think this guy Nepo is extremely good natured and normal?  I can't think of another top professional chess player who is.  I've grown to really like the guy and feel bad I've been rooting for Magnus lol.

Of course Nepo is normal guy.

He said he like to play football with friends in Moscow.

But... as you mentioned other ones... Gary Kasparov is quite normal at my taste of normality... too.

Why he isn't?

From what I’ve heard, Garry was pretty arrogant and didn’t take losses very well

korotky_trinity
morphyblanca1 wrote:

 

 

Don"t you think 25. ... Rook f8 instead of King f7... would be better for Black ?

Maybe Nepo had chances then... with that move.

CooloutAC
korotky_trinity wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:

Ya i mean i use to think it was the myth that they are smarter then a society who is too dumb to understand the game.  So they just have superiority complexes and act snobby because they grew up in these chess clubs perpetuating that self fulfilling prophecy.   But I now I think it has to do maintaining total focus on the game, because any little distraction and it all comes crashing down very easily.     So they learn to be heartless and cold blooded not letting anything get to them.  I definitely sense that in magnus.     I mean does anyone else think this guy Nepo is extremely good natured and normal?  I can't think of another top professional chess player who is.  I've grown to really like the guy and feel bad I've been rooting for Magnus lol.

Of course Nepo is normal guy.

He said he like to play football with friends in Moscow.

But... as you mentioned other ones... Gary Kasparov is quite normal at my taste of normality... too.

Why he isn't?

He seems like another toxic sociopath to me.  Not normal at all.  LIke most chess players he will treat you off the board like he would over it.  Nepo seems like a very good natured and down to earth nice guy.  Not your typical chess snob even with Magnus.  I could be wrong but thats how he comes off in the press conferences. 

CooloutAC
Optimissed wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Jenium wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the best explanation is often the simplest. Round 6 got to his head and coudnt shake it off

SO like me on lichess today, spiraling straight down 200 points which is almost like 400 on chess.com lol, just saying screw it and throwing matches on purpose out of spite and emotional fervor.  If I was him I'd take the money and run.  Time to find a new career.  Probably the only pay out he is gonna get for years to come.

200? lmao , thats quite a swing.  I have dropped maybe 60-70 points on a really bad day when i shoudnt be playing. the dumbest points i lose is when i ate a big often big carb meal and my performance just crashes for the next few hours, and i keep playing hope to regain lost ground. This is pretty much why i starve myself on tournament games.

i spent so long trying to find the perfect formula for that alert "in the zone" feeling, and i have had some success in finding what is more likely to trigger it but its not always something you can control

-cold showers

-certain coffees seem to work better than other

-brisk walking for 5-10 minutes before a game, esp if early in the morning

-low to no food

-nootropics
-solid sleep , but not too much melatonin.

interestingly, of all the above, brisk walking has been maybe the best ,followed by the food. everything else has been hit or miss. 

ya i'm about to give it up man.  I need to find a new hobby.  

How about dancing? But may I suggest that you don't tell the ladies there that they are all  sociopaths with a severe personality disorder.

I call it like  I see it bud.   snobby sociopaths,  or severe personality disorders.  I mean pretty much every stereotype about chess players is true for the majority.   Its pretty disappointing.  

And  dancing is not an option.  I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport.   I might buy the new battlefield game,  but the fact they added grappling hook and people flying from rooftops looks kind of corny to me.  Plus I hear its very buggy and my computer is showing its age now..  I'm still on the fence about it.   Wish they had trials to try like the told days.

One thing I've noticed is that I play better when slightly dehydrated and when I'm trying to concentrate on chess, I prefer keeping drinks to small quantities of water, tea or coffee. I've got this theory that too much fluid alters the electrolyte balance which in turn alters the ability to concentrate.

I'd collapse on the table if I was playing chess as long as these guys even with water lmao.

CooloutAC
hoodoothere wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Jenium wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the best explanation is often the simplest. Round 6 got to his head and coudnt shake it off

SO like me on lichess today, spiraling straight down 200 points which is almost like 400 on chess.com lol, just saying screw it and throwing matches on purpose out of spite and emotional fervor.  If I was him I'd take the money and run.  Time to find a new career.  Probably the only pay out he is gonna get for years to come.

200? lmao , thats quite a swing.  I have dropped maybe 60-70 points on a really bad day when i shoudnt be playing. the dumbest points i lose is when i ate a big often big carb meal and my performance just crashes for the next few hours, and i keep playing hope to regain lost ground. This is pretty much why i starve myself on tournament games.

i spent so long trying to find the perfect formula for that alert "in the zone" feeling, and i have had some success in finding what is more likely to trigger it but its not always something you can control

-cold showers

-certain coffees seem to work better than other

-brisk walking for 5-10 minutes before a game, esp if early in the morning

-low to no food

-nootropics
-solid sleep , but not too much melatonin.

interestingly, of all the above, brisk walking has been maybe the best ,followed by the food. everything else has been hit or miss. 

ya i'm about to give it up man.  I need to find a new hobby.  

How about dancing? But may I suggest that you don't tell the ladies there that they are all  sociopaths with a severe personality disorder.

I call it like  I see it bud.   snobby sociopaths,  or severe personality disorders.  I mean pretty much every stereotype about chess players is true for the majority.   Its pretty disappointing.  

And  dancing is not an option.  I don't go out much since covid,  looking for a new home indoor hobby, like another e-sport.   I might buy the new battlefield game,  but the fact they added grappling hook and people flying from rooftops looks kind of corny to me.  Plus I hear its very buggy and my computer is showing its age now..  I'm still on the fence about it.   Wish they had trials to try like the told days.

What about Scrabble? People that are crappy at math tend to be better at word sports.  Also on-line poker? Less math there, and more people skills, although you do have to know the basic odds.

memory and math and puzzle solving are very important in those games.  Its why so many chess players like online poker. Also Less people skills needed for that then irl.