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  • #821
    netzach wrote:

    But you don't '' know '' do you so you are conjecturing & proffering opinion that is factually wrong..

    Is a scientist wrong if he has a theory or a hypothesis? Just because someone doesn't witness an event first hand, doesn't mean they don't know the truth. If you really believe that gibberish your spouting, you need to get out more and see if you own opinions are true or not...do you have any tangible proof to the contrary to what I am saying or just your own thoeries and conjectures...if not piss off dude...

  • #822

    Fischer wouldn't want to be granted U.S. citizenship posthumously. He hated the U.S. Doing that would only disrespect his wishes. And I doubt there'd be a groundswell of support for the idea given Fischer's despicable comments after 9/11

  • #823

    Irrelevant.

    Your speech also overtly-political...

  • #824
    nameno1had wrote:
    netzach wrote:

    But you don't '' know '' do you so you are conjecturing & proffering opinion that is factually wrong..

    Is a scientist wrong if he has a theory or a hypothesis? Just because someone doesn't witness an event first hand, doesn't mean they don't know the truth. If you really believe that gibberish your spouting, you need to get out more and see if you own opinions are true or not...do you have any tangible proof to the contrary to what I am saying or just your own thoeries and conjectures...if not piss off dude...

  • #825

    How is that irrelevant (if your post was directed at me?) You're advocating for something Fischet (and probably most Americans) wouldn't want.

  • #826
    chesspooljuly13 wrote:

    How is that irrelevant (if your post was directed at me?) You're advocating for something Fischet (and probably most Americans) wouldn't want.

  • #827

    I think you haven't captured how the quote function is supposed to work lol

  • #828
    chesspooljuly13 wrote:

    I think you haven't captured how the quote function is supposed to work lol

    Am aware of it's function thank you yet under no oblgation to speak with anyone being personally abusive. Let's try again to eplain what I say with  2 questions for you :

    • Was Bobby Fischer an American world-chess-champion ?
    • Was he then considered an American national/citizen ?
  • #829

    How is it being "personally abusive" to say Fischer wouldn't want American citizenship granted posthumously because he hated America and most Anericans probably wouldn't want that either because of his comments after 9/11.

    I don't see how that's a "personally abusive" comment, but whatever

  • #830

    The answer to both your questions is Yes. At the time he won the WCC he was an American.

  • #831

    There's a difference. People who get away with crimes by pleading insanity were evaluated to be insane by a qualified mental health professional. Fischer's "insanity" is open to debate; as far as I know, no one qualified to make that diagnosis has labeled him as such. You don't have to be insane to be an anti-Semite and say offensive and cruel things

  • #832

    All the Fischer threads get here at one point or another...

  • #833

    I'm not saying he was responsible, but you have to be a world-class a**hole to cheer the deaths of 3,000 people within a day or two of it happening.

  • #834

    If a drunk driver killed one of your relatives and some idiot started cheering and applauding what happened, that idiot's not responsible for that death. But he's still a world-class a**hole - as Fischer was late in his life.

  • #835

    I'm talking of events concerning chess & B. Fischer that took place in the 1970's for goodness sake ! Not transposing that to any political furore in the future over anything else. I speak of historical events then that resulted in his citizenship being withdrawn at that time. Is that is any way to treat one of your own countrymen ?

    When America disowned him back then the events you are mouthing off about hadn't even happened. That is why I said '' irrelevant '' ?

  • #836

    But granting him posthumous citizenship is something that (obviously) would have to take place today, and, as I've said, that's something Fischer nor most Americans would want. So why are you continuing to beat that drum?! The two parties most affected don't want it, so why not just drop it?

  • #837

    Didn't realise you had the authority to speak for the entire US populace that sounds like megalomania ?

    Sure he was mentally-ill, extremist & racist but he was never anti-american until after his country treated him badly. You would likely feel the same if it had happened to you.

    [edit] 90's or whatever is still over 20 years ago & before other events.

  • #838

    Besides, Fischer's citizenship wasn't revoked in the 1970s; that happened in the 1990s after he violated sanctions by playing his rematch with Spassky!

  • #839

    Take a poll of the U.S. populace and see for yourself. I certainly know the U.S. populace better than you. Irregardless, I said "most" - as in a majority - so I'm clearly not referring to the entire U.S. populace

  • #840

    You accuse me of megalomania right after you falsely accuse me of being "personally abusive." You're a riot, netzach! LOL!

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