Tie Break Question

notmtwain
Dodger111 wrote:

In a tournament my higher rated opponent and I have only completed two games and those are against ourselves. 

I won a game and received one tie break point. He then beat me and received Three tie break points, even though I have a 50 point lower rating. 

My understanding was the tie break points are awarded according to performance against higher/lower rated players, so why would he get more tie break points for defeating me?

Look up tie breaks in the Help section. https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444840

 

 

Dodger111
notmtwain wrote:
Dodger111 wrote:

In a tournament my higher rated opponent and I have only completed two games and those are against ourselves. 

I won a game and received one tie break point. He then beat me and received Three tie break points, even though I have a 50 point lower rating. 

My understanding was the tie break points are awarded according to performance against higher/lower rated players, so why would he get more tie break points for defeating me?

Look up tie breaks in the Help section. https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444840

 

Thanks....it doesn't answer my question at all because it says exactly the same thing I asked about....WHY would a higher rated opponent get more tie break points for defeating a lower rated opponent? 

According to the Help section explanation, that is NOT what was supposed to have happened.

 

notmtwain

It does answer your question. It tells you how tie break points are calculated. Ratings do not matter.


You get 1 point for each point the opponents you defeated have won and a 1/2 of the points earned for each draw.

You have won 3 games. The opponent who beat you gets 3 points.

Your opponents have only won 1 game. You have got only 1 tie break point so far.

You have finished all 4 games. Your opponents are still playing 2 games.

Their result will determine how many tiebreak points you end up with. If Maythefork wins both games, you will both end up with 3 points and 3 tiebreak points.  

The help page even tells you what happens if results and tiebreak points are equal.

 

Dodger111

He had three points BEFORE I won the other two games.

As I explained, immediately after he beat me he received 3 points. At that time we had only finished our games against each other, with one win and one loss each.

notmtwain
Dodger111 wrote:

He had three points BEFORE I won the other two games.

As I explained, immediately after he beat me he received 3 points. At that time we had only finished our games against each other, with one win and one loss each.

Hmm, I think you are mistaken.

At any rate, the tie breaks only matter if there is a tie. Unless Maythefork wins both remaining games, the tie breaks don't matter.

And, if I am correct, in that case you will both have 3 points and 3 tiebreak points and you will both advance.

And if you are correct, and you end up losing on tiebreaks,  then I will admit my error.