Grob how to defeat it

sankofa

How do I defeat the /Grob and the English

Conquistador

The Grob unfortunately has no refutation.  The English though is strongly met by 1...g5!

henryoliver
Conquistador wrote:

The Grob unfortunately has no refutation.  The English though is strongly met by 1...g5!


ZREALEX

Boh

Mrmerbs57

sankofa wrote:

How do I defeat the /Grob and the English

sadly the grob will only ever find success in quick play time controls, on longer day move controls against half decent opposition it will struggle, I saw Grandmaster Mark hebden once had this played against him in an open tournament and he played a less obvious line against it 1.g4,e5 2.h3,Nge7!? 3.Bg2,h5 and the obvious g5 leaves hole in f5, and odd line against the Grob but his opponent a 180 ECF resigned after just 26 moves,,, so much for the grob that day, but as a quick play opening it may catch someone out suppose!?

jchess161

Why is the grob such a hot topic in the forums right now?

hartofgoldrubinstein

Haha here he is a cool full refutation of the Grob by an IM: https://youtu.be/0wBUxzv04jY

vern4

hey

 

my137thaccount
jchess161 wrote:

Why is the grob such a hot topic in the forums right now?

Because @AustinGGilson is necrobumping all the old threads on the Grob to advertise his videos.

hartofgoldrubinstein

That is funny that Austin is praising his videos so much. Send around the video by the IM showing how to refute it grin.png

Mrmerbs57

hartofgoldrubinstein wrote:

That is funny that Austin is praising his videos so much. Send around the video by the IM showing how to refute it grin.png

How to defeat the GROB, well I.M Michael Basman played it but without any success against I.M and especially G.Ms it's downfall I think is once all the cheap tricks have not been fallen for Mr Grobs position especially his PAWN structure does not look very convincing but I am not a high ranked player just someone who used to be ok!! Be happy to take on Mr Grob in friendly controls but only 3 Days per move or higher😉

hartofgoldrubinstein

The Grob is the worst opening move since it weakens two critical squares in the opening near the king, not just one. The only opening move leading to -1! I think it was a lot easier to get away with bad play in the past objectively

Deranged

I just refuted the grob opening today:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/ive-officially-refuted-the-grob-opening

hartofgoldrubinstein

lol Austin disagrees with the engine's depth 60 evaluation, strong players, and correspondence games because he has some agenda to push. Cool. 1900s on the internet are funny