Hes I have been flagged many times
It feels so sad when this happens
Have you ever been flagged in a completely winning position?
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It's not the result itself that upsets me (I've lost thousands of game of course), but the fact that the excellent play and diligent effort that went into the game has gone completely waste.
Agree apart from the "unsportsmanlike" thing. It's part of the rules of the game. You may as well say it's unsportsmanlike to keep attacking a pinned piece and not give your opponent a chance to mobilize.
Donnsteinz wrote:
It's not the result itself that upsets me (I've lost thousands of game of course), but the fact that the excellent play and diligent effort that went into the game has gone completely waste.
You can only blame yourself but not your opponent. He has shown a good sportsmanship by trying to achieve the best possible result within the rules.
uri65 wrote:
Donnsteinz wrote:
It's not the result itself that upsets me (I've lost thousands of game of course), but the fact that the excellent play and diligent effort that went into the game has gone completely waste.
You can only blame yourself but not your opponent. He has shown a good sportsmanship by trying to achieve the best possible result within the rules.
Euthanasia of mental patients was legal for the greater half of the 20th century. Just because something is legal and "within the rules" doesn't make it okay.
A lot people seem to have misunderstood my point.
This post was not made to take a dump on flaggers; it's an invitation to share games where you've brilliantly outplayed the adversary only to succumb to the flag at the end.
I believe that such games must not drown under all the other silly 3+0 losses as they've artistic value for the pure chess part of the sport. That's why I made this post in the first place, because this one was a fine positional display (although a bit one-sided), and there is no way of retrieving it without immense time consuming effort later. Now I just have to go to my profile, click on the forum, and view the game directly. 
dont have any recently like that rip
Donnsteinz wrote:
A lot people seem to have misunderstood my point.
This post was not made to take a dump on flaggers; it's an invitation to share games where you've brilliantly outplayed the adversary only to succumb to the flag at the end.
If that was your point, then why did you suggest it was unsportsmanlike? Any time you agree to play blitz (especially no increment) you effectively agree to the very real possibility that you will lose on time because you took too long to try to win. Don't like it? Don't play 3-0 Blitz.
Firebrandx wrote:
Donnsteinz wrote:
A lot people seem to have misunderstood my point.
This post was not made to take a dump on flaggers; it's an invitation to share games where you've brilliantly outplayed the adversary only to succumb to the flag at the end.
If that was your point, then why did you suggest it was unsportsmanlike? Any time you agree to play blitz (especially no increment) you effectively agree to the very real possibility that you will lose on time because you took too long to try to win. Don't like it? Don't play 3-0 Blitz.
The same attitude of those that blame ropes on the victim. It goes something like: "If she didn't want to be roped, she shouldn't have been outside after in the dark."
Donnsteinz wrote:
uri65 wrote:
Donnsteinz wrote:
It's not the result itself that upsets me (I've lost thousands of game of course), but the fact that the excellent play and diligent effort that went into the game has gone completely waste.
You can only blame yourself but not your opponent. He has shown a good sportsmanship by trying to achieve the best possible result within the rules.
Euthanasia of mental patients was legal for the greater half of the 20th century. Just because something is legal and "within the rules" doesn't make it okay.
If you want to compete in bringing unrelated examples here is mine: selling you labour for a pay was within rules 3000 years ago and is still ok today.
Flagging your opponent in a lost position is ok by general consensus, it happens all the time at all levels and there is no indication that it’s going to change anytime soon.
yes
I never said anything should necessarily change. If you read post #1, you'll see that I emphasized that flagging is not unethical or illegal. It is definitely unsportsmanlike though (you can look up "sportsmanship" anywhere on the internet for examples) and there's no denying that.
I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore about the question regarding sportsmanship, if only because it makes me tired.
If you want to let out your inner masochist and share your "best-game turned into a loss", then feel free to do so. If you're looking for arguments then maybe you can join in an ongoing one here dedicated to the subject.
SparklingBrilliance wrote:
Well, I did something like that yesterday in a blitz game. Flagged my opponent when I had only a king, and he had a king, bishop, and rook.
That would've resulted in a draw because of insufficient material vs timeout, right?
Funny because it just happed to me a couple minutes ago, although of course, I was on the receiving end. Lucky for me I managed to pick off his 2 remaining pawns when I had a K and Q vs his lone K, otherwise I may have lost that one too. Boy, are such situations intense!
https://www.chess.com/game/live/46525819885
idk why people are mad, even haters do it all the time so what makes it any different?
Not that it's necessarily evil or unethical, but (especially in online chess) it's somewhat un-sportsmanlike don't you agree? I'm quite sure that this one took with it a small part of my soul: