history of chinese chess

even janggi and shogi

The Gaja pieces in Chaturanga doesn't move same like elephant in Xiangqi as well, elephant pieces in Xiangqi can't jump over pieces like in Chaturanga , plus you cant cross the river to the other side which happens for Gaja in Chaturanga 

There are a lot of borrowed and modified words between English , Hindi, Chinese languages. But calling it descendant of who to who is not accurate.

Chinese modifications to the basic 2 squares diagonally.

Having offensive and defensive pieces is genius. Just like in real war, and American Football.

problem is, xiangqi was, for lack of a better word, "imported" from india,the modifications occurred after that, unlike in those languages, where the "base" language exists, and is modified by external influence

Because Old Xiangqi is already existed in China way longer before Chaturanga piece of Gaja is being "imported " into Xiangqi in China.

So calling Xiangqi as descendant of Chaturanga , is really too absurd and too many controversy

if you look at the wiki page for xiangqi, under the "origins" section, it does say that the most commonly accepted theory is xiangqi was passed from chaturanga to Persian chess to 宝应象棋 to 象棋. the rules of 六博 and 北周象戏 are vastly different from the modern xiangqi

if you look at the wiki page for xiangqi, under the "origins" section, it does say that the most commonly accepted theory is xiangqi was passed from chaturanga to Persian chess to 宝应象棋 to 象棋. the rules of 六博 and 北周象戏 are vastly different from the modern xiangqi

ummm nah its very accurate...people dont like the idea because they all want to be special and nationalist. Modern languages didnt just pop out of thin air, they were derived from preexisting ones...those preexisting ones are the predecessors/ancestors, the newer ones the successors/descendants....when the language remains the "same" and the country can still attach their nationalist owner ship to it on one seems to have a problem. After all is modern English not a descendant/successor of old English which is now considered antiquated? yeah did some words spelling even meaning/usage not change?

You just dont like the idea because one is called french and the other English.........but the facts still remain one derived/descended from the other (that other being one which itself descended from others).

象戏 term is a lot longer than the term 象棋 tbh, hence some translator may misunderstand that 象棋 into elephant chess, but ignoring the 象棋 is descendant of 象戏

wrong, 象戏 first appeared in northern zhou, 象棋 in the warring states

wrong, 象戏 first appeared in northern zhou, 象棋 in the warring states

Precisely. 恰图兰加这种游戏是最古老的，但是在演变的过程中确实已经和它没有太大关系了。