How do you refer to White and Black in English?

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panderson2

As a foreigner I'd like to ask which word has to be used

a) He?

b) It?

c) They?

yakushi12345

Not sure I understand the question perfectly

I would say

they are both colors

it is a color(if referring to only one of them)

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Hee.

As in "tee hee, I just checkmated you".

FlowerFlowers

it (b) for one ... they (c) for both

NoMoreHats

Suffragettes are hot.

NoMoreHats

Pretty much every chess book I own uses "he," except for the ones that go to great pains to always say "white" or "black," presumably because they didn't want to deal with this very question.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

An article in Chess Life written by Elizabeth Vicary about a game between two women even used the "he".

panderson2

I'm asking because Dzindzi in his videos , like the last one for example, talks like this: "There's no way Black can resist here, so they resigned" :)

Besides since White and Black are abstract names, shouldn't be proper to use the pronoun "it"?

Dragec

panderson2
OmarCayenne wrote:

"Proper"?...lol When the whole stupid business acts like half the human race doesn't exist? Hey seriously, knock this crap off before I sic trysts on ya.


I mean ... grammatically proper

Mijin

"His or her" gets pretty tiresome in many situations, and there have been several attempts to have a standard word instead. My favourite is "hes" (rhymes with fez)...obviously it didn't catch on though.

Instead we often use "their", which sounds clunky in many contexts, such as in chess, where it sounds like you're referring to both players.  

blake78613

The pronoun he is generic and includes both male and female.  

blake78613
OmarCayenne wrote:

"Proper"?...lol When the whole stupid business acts like half the human race doesn't exist? Hey seriously, knock this crap off before I sic trysts on ya.


You are a sexist.  Using the generic assumes that the position is the same for the whole human race and that gender is irrelevant.  You insistence that the gender of the player is relevant is based on pure prejudice. 

blake78613

Perhaps over a 1000 years ago the English language developed as it did for partly sexist reasons, but I don't see that as a reason to stand the English language on it's head and resort to awkward constructions.  We might just as well abandon the whole language since it was developed by a bunch of barbarians.