Humans v Houdini chess engine (Elo 3300)

Yes, it does change his mind "later", but this is of no use- damage already done. Going 40-ply from the diagram position is obviously going to take a couple of weeks, even in fairly modern hardware- so impractical, even for correspondence chess.

The above position happened when I, as Black, opened the h-file prematurely (Black had a pawn on h5 and white on h2, plus one more rook each), where Black should eventually come out with a winning plan. But I also committed the very same error: I trusted the engine evaluations, without realizing the fortress plan. It was only when the 5-6 "best" lines all came to the very same evaluation (very favorable to Black) when I realized that there was something wrong, white could set up an inpenetrable position, and Houdini/Critter/pfren had in reality blundered half a point...

When? To my poor knowledge, the last time a strong corr. player met a computer, the human won 2-0, but this is some five years ago.

The reasons that such matches are not held is rather simple: The programmers are well aware of the limitations of their engines, and won't put up such a challenge before improving  on them.

ELO points mean nothing for that matter- their statistical model was tuned for different sorts of events. On ICCF championships, the highest ELO currently is 2729, which is way below your 3300 dream. But this is the highest a super modern engine under skillfull human aid has achieved.

How well Kramnik, or any other strong GM can play without computer aid at long time controls? Logic says more than that, factly they would beat the machine without too much effort. Chess is not a bunch of zeroes and ones which should be counted as fast as possible, this is the truth- whether you like it, or not.

But of course, the first thing the silicon lovers will think when the GM beats their beloved Dumbini is that the GM had computer aid...

Hardly surprising.

pfren can you post the entire game please btw, computers are notoriously terrible in my experience dealing with closed positions, nice job kicking some cp but.

i have houdini which kicks rybkas ane frtitzs ass

and if need to check the rating list, houdini crushes all

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_engine

Bah, you didn't get it.

Of course I check, and in that particular position there was no need to check at all- everything is in the book.

14.Nxg6 hg6 15.Bd3 and white normally goes on gaining space on the kingside by h4, g4 etc (the other option of playing e3-e4 allows Black more counterplay after an eventual ...c5).

I just forgot to take on g6, simple as that... 

It IS silly, but can happen to anyone.

But this is why you check!

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/   

houdini is wayyyy above rybka, you claim i dont have updated software?? LOL

Oh did i mention, houdini1.5 is for free? but houdini 2 isnt

i think houdini 1.5 is still better than the updated rybka, correct me if im wrong mr.yereslov

Of course you have to keep in mind that he would correct you if you were right as well.

i think houdini 1.5 is still better than the updated rybka, correct me if im wrong mr.yereslov

Well-said!