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If online blitz ratings don't matter, let me ask you one question only !?
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Sep 18, 2019
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#3
Online blitz ratings matter for the site and time control used to compute them, in the form of probabilities of a result against another rated player. Using those ratings beyond that scenario matters little to nothing.
Nicator65 wrote:
Online blitz ratings matter for the site and time control used to compute them, in the form of probabilities of a result against another rated player. Using those ratings beyond that scenario matters little to nothing.
Agree to disagree
"Ratings beyond that scenario matters little to nothing"
Yeah right! 2800, 2900,3000,2700 rated players on this site , they are all begginers in real life.
Sep 19, 2019
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#5
They don't need to be beginners but to exhibit a different rating under different time controls, different sites, or real life. Which, by the way, is the case for the majority.
Now, on online ratings, the majority play blitz or bullet, modalities which are –for the most part– guessing rather than concrete analysis, hence chess for fun rather than serious chess. That's the reason why we don't see players getting titles (CM, FM, IM and GM) under such modalities.
I believe that the 3/0 format represents the very highest level of chess skill on Chess.com as it provides enough time to complete an entire game skillfully but does not provide for an inordinate amount of excess time and 0 time replenishment.
Rising to the level of 2700+ on Chess.com is a far greater accomplishment in blitz chess as it actually represents a much more selected and finite grouping of chess competitors worldwide.
"In that sense, a classical format is "easier" as it eliminates the element of blitz time pressure that exists within 3/0 blitz chess on Chess.com".
This would make it easier for some people, harder for others. Take for example Genrikh Chepukaitis.
3/0 BLITZ CHESS AS THE SUPERIOR MODERN CHESS FORMAT
When referencing a 2700+ rating on Chess.com I am of course referencing the very elite Top 348 blitz chess players worldwide on Chess.com. Take a look at the statistical facts to confirm this number for yourself and I believe that you will be quite surprised by the truly selective nature of that rating on Chess.com. Familiar names and world champions fall within those ranks, including the very top competitors worldwide.
Blitz chess adds the element of time and removes extended periods of contemplation or delay in Chess that exists within more classical forms of chess. Therefore a 2700 in Classical Chess does not translate seamlessly to a 2700+ rating in blitz chess on Chess.com. In fact, there are many active players in classical chess who would be rated far lower if they were to compete online under a 3/0 Blitz format. In that sense, a classical format is "easier" as it eliminates the element of blitz time pressure that exists within 3/0 blitz chess on Chess.com.
If we take a step further and equivalate FIDE 2700 to Chess.com Blitz 2800, then we reduce the selection pool to the top 119 blitz chess competitors on Chess.com, which is extremely close to the blitz chess rating of FIDE Top 100 players worldwide. At the top of both lists are the same blitz chess masters and familiar names and title holders.
It is my perspective that 3/0 is the highest and new standard of chess when measuring true chess skill
Nicator65 wrote:
They don't need to be beginners but to exhibit a different rating under different time controls, different sites, or real life. Which, by the way, is the case for the majority.
Now, on online ratings, the majority play blitz or bullet, modalities which are –for the most part– guessing rather than concrete analysis, hence chess for fun rather than serious chess. That's the reason why we don't see players getting titles (CM, FM, IM and GM) under such modalities.
You are certainly entitled to your personal perspective.
However, allow me to enlighten you with the fact that some of the highest rated and most powerful chess players worldwide are on Chess.com online and are rated within the Chess.com blitz chess rating curve.
Certainly, you would not contend that such players rated above 2700+ on Chess.com does not translate into a very elite level of chess skill. The 99.4% Echelon of chess skill on Chess.com is no different for the online chess skill translates seamlessly.
And who said what's mentioned on the title, btw? I've never seen that in 5 years here.
3/0 Blitz Chess is the New Standard for the highest level of chess skill on Chess.com
Nicator65 wrote:
They don't need to be beginners but to exhibit a different rating under different time controls, different sites, or real life. Which, by the way, is the case for the majority.
Now, on online ratings, the majority play blitz or bullet, modalities which are –for the most part– guessing rather than concrete analysis, hence chess for fun rather than serious chess. That's the reason why we don't see players getting titles (CM, FM, IM and GM) under such modalities.
FIDE Online Arena is the exclusive internet platform recognized by the World Chess Federation (FIDE) for online rated tournaments, FIDE ratings & FIDE titles! The real names of players, aligned with each player's FIDE ID, are used in all games and tournaments, exactly like in official over-the-board competitions.
Sep 20, 2019
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#15
@ESP-918 Botvinnik was against lightning chess, Carlsen said blitz and bullet are chess for fun and can't be considered serious chess at any rate.
To this, you reply that because classic chess adds extra time for considerations, then is easier. Well, it's not as most mistakes don't go unpunished in Classic time controls, as it happens often in Blitz and Bullet. Same as with mathematicians is not about who solves 240 problems in 3 minutes with fewer mistakes, but who solves problems flawlessly because that's the real measure and not self-indulging "I have more talent".
Also, just because titled players participate in, let's say, FIDE Blitz World Championship, doesn't mean Norms or Titles are awarded, not even for the winner.
Why aren't you 29 hundred yet !?