# Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

hicetnunc wrote:
Conflagration_Planet wrote:
princetrumpet wrote:

If the 2700 is very distracted or impaired, yes. Under normal circumstances, each playing their best game, no.

He could probably be distracted, and impaired, and still win.

A 2700 player would beat a dozen 1300 in a blindfold simul while playing cards...

Remember Morphy ?

Yep. :)

Rooperi, here is the game you are referring to.

blaow wrote:

Rooperi, here is the game you are referring to.

What does Qd3 change? Notice that f3 is guarded by the d4 knight.

blaow wrote:

What does Qd3 change? Notice that f3 is guarded by the d4 knight.

followed by qf1

oh okay, sorry

Heyy, so there is actually one game in 10000! Faith in probability restored!

RetiFan wrote:

Heyy, so there is actually one game in 10000! Faith in probability restored!

Well unfortunately (?) it was a simul, so I'm afraid it doesn't count.

Tmattb86 wrote:

The Universe is huge and old, and its only getting bigger and older. Anything that isn't strictly imposible has probably happened countless times already.

Our planet orbits a single star, our star is 1 in a billion in our galaxy. Our galaxy is 1 in a billion in the observable universe. These are a drunken man's rough estimations, but the point remains. If it is possible, it happens.

If an omniscient being had commented on the odds of this exact debate occuring in some far flung corner of the Universe countless millenia ago, he would have considered it close to zilch.

Look at us now.

Actually, if he was the ancestor of anyone on this forum, he would have said nonelolllzz

Correction, Browne could have saved mate with e6, but black would go into a vastly superior endgame.

blaow wrote:

Correction, Browne could have saved mate with e6, but black would go into a vastly superior endgame.

true

My room mate has asked this of me, like is it possible to "luck" into just the right moves to beat a master?

They would have to be very lucky no?

Jacksimus wrote:

My room mate has asked this of me, like is it possible to "luck" into just the right moves to beat a master?

They would have to be very lucky no?

I would recommend playing the lottery first...

Jacksimus wrote:

My room mate has asked this of me, like is it possible to "luck" into just the right moves to beat a master?

They would have to be very lucky no?

It would indeed be possible for somebody rated below 500 to luck into the right moves to beat the world champ, but the odds would be so high against it, you might as well call it impossible.

2509 is far from 2700. That is an other level, ask any GM about it.

dezsoracz wrote:

2509 is far from 2700. That is an other level, ask any GM about it.

GM and Super GM....some 2509's might not even be a GM under FIDE rules for achieving the rating

2700 vs 2500:

One of the English GMs, I've forgotten which one, is meant to have described played Karpov as follows. You play a good opening, get a good position, make good plans, improve your position, think you might have a shot at winning, and then suddenly it will dawn on you that your position is totally lost, and you have no idea how or why.

2700 cant be so stupid

mosh_viteza wrote:

i was beaten twice by a 1200 player recently.His strenght was about 2000 :D

Yes I took a look at the game, a fluke can happen.