Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

pt22064

It's also possible that the 2700 player is letting the 1300 win - for example, if he is the coach and wants to encourage the student and build the student's confidence. I also know parents that let their kids win at games in general, especially if their kids get upset when they lose. I myself have never purposely lost to my kids or even intentionally made a bad move in a game against them, although I used to let them take back moves ("are you sure you want to make that move?") or pointed out threats. Nowadays, they are better than me -- and they never show me any mercy!

SmyslovFan

Pt, the stipulation was a tournament/match where the 2700 had an incentive to win.

psiphi1

     simply stated: yes

TetsuoShima
psiphi1 wrote:

yes,IF,the higher ranked is giving a simultaneous,plays skittles,doesn't take his opp. seriously or gives him odds. But if you mean a tournament game,then the ansswer is still YES,but very rarely. How? Being human we are all susceptible to aberrations,loss of concentration,errors,or just plain didn't see  it,or looking a forced mate 17 moves deep and getting so excited that he plays move 14 for move 13-THE GAME IS LOST.   This actually happened to a player!!

there was a tournament were a 2700 rated player played a 1300 rated player?????

what was the tournament called??

Atomic_Rift

John Nunn lost to a kid.

psiphi1

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TetsuoShima
Atomic_Rift wrote:

John Nunn lost to a kid.

was his name Magnus Carlsen??

Atomic_Rift
TetsuoShima wrote:
Atomic_Rift wrote:

John Nunn lost to a kid.

was his name Magnus Carlsen??

No, LOL! Laughing

Atomic_Rift
Atomic_Rift wrote:
TetsuoShima wrote:
Atomic_Rift wrote:

John Nunn lost to a kid.

was his name Magnus Carlsen??

No, LOL! 

It was this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Howell_(chess_player)

Atomic_Rift
HotFlow wrote:
Atomic_Rift wrote:

John Nunn lost to a kid.


Playing chess?

Yes, and because of that most kids on chesskid.com thinks he's a terrible chess player! Frown

psiphi1

tetsuo shima,my apologies;the 17 move forced mate that was lost due to a move out of order was by  two(2) masters,not a 1300 vs. 1700 player. should have made that clear.

psiphi1

i mean a 1300 and             2700  layer,enough.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Dr. Nunn is one of my favorite players.

pfren

I am no fan of dr.Nunn, his books, or his play, but this doesn't mean that ultimate patzers have the right to mock at him.

SmyslovFan

I really enjoy Nunn's books, especially Secrets of Grandmaster Play and Secrets of Practical Chess. His comments in the latter are piquant and concise and his examples are excellent. 

Dr. Nunn has won several awards for his books, including the British Chess Federation's Book of the year for Secrets of Grandmaster Play.

Some of Nunn's games do feel a bit trappy to me, but his books have helped me to think more concretely. 

And I agree with Pfren that mocking Dr. Nunn for losing to a kid (who just so happened to become the youngest GM in the history of the UK) is completely inappropriate. 

AndyClifton

lol

Knightly_News
AndyClifton wrote:

lol

That's a Nunn-sequitur, dude.

AndyClifton

Nunnsense!

Grumblesmurf

Worth noting that in an interview not too long ago Carlsen said Nunn could have been World Champion, except that he was (is) too clever.

zborg

Nunn has nunthing to prove.  Even to IM @Pfren.

It's like saying Ken Rogoff is "only a GM."

Both Nunn's (and Rogoff's) CVs impress, greatly.