# Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

The Universe is huge and old, and its only getting bigger and older. Anything that isn't strictly imposible has probably happened countless times already.

Our planet orbits a single star, our star is 1 in a billion in our galaxy. Our galaxy is 1 in a billion in the observable universe. These are a drunken man's rough estimations, but the point remains. If it is possible, it happens.

If an omniscient being had commented on the odds of this exact debate occuring in some far flung corner of the Universe countless millenia ago, he would have considered it close to zilch.

Look at us now.

This discusstion is over, I've already written the huge 0'ed percent, want me to write it again?

Basically, you have a much better chance of living until you are 1000 than a 1300 beating a 2700 unless the 2700 is provisional or the 1300 is cheating.

Sure, everything is possible. Gather 1,000,000 monkeys, let them play 7,000,000 times against Houdini, and it's absolutely sure they will checkmate him in 17 moves in one game.

pfren wrote:

Sure, everything is possible. Gather 1,000,000 monkeys, let them play 7,000,000 times against Houdini, and it's absolutely sure they will checkmate him in 17 moves in one game.

18 moves I could see, 17 moves... Pffffttttt

Surely one can do anything with his dedication and hardwork.

In india a small 7 yrs old unrated child have defeated a GM. Superb na. And now he is rated 2234 at just 9 yrs.

They were likely better than 1300 at unrated.

Possible? yes.

the typical 1300 could not beat a typical gm though. Great question. I wonder things like that myself. :)

GM__Sanand wrote:

In india a small 7 yrs old unrated child have defeated a GM. Superb na. And now he is rated 2234 at just 9 yrs.

This is called mythbuilding, at least outside India. There is no such player in the FIDE lists.

RetiFan wrote:

There is a big difference between 0 and 0.000125

Only in mathematical terms. In practical chess terms there is no difference.

FirebrandX wrote:
Tmattb86 wrote:

Our planet orbits a single star, our star is 1 in a billion in our galaxy. Our galaxy is 1 in a billion in the observable universe.

Your estimates are a bit off. Our galaxy has somewhere between 200 billion and 400 billion stars, and the likely estimate of galaxies in the observable universe is close to the same number. The universe is around 13.75 billion years old, with an observable sphere diameter of close to 100 billion light years (expansion places galaxies much further away than we observe them).

Not to mention, our universe might be just on of a countless number of em.

possible i am rated 389 JCL but i defeated a 800~ player in an OTB tournament today (not to mention that my rating is now probably above 400

Ultimately though, if a 1300 player beats a 2700 player, has he really 'beaten' him? Really it would just be probability and incredible luck, the 1300 player certainly wouldn't appreciate the actual depth of the moves he made by chance.

Conflagration_Planet wrote:

Not to mention, our universe might be just on of a countless number of em.

Perhaps that 'multiverse' is only one of a countless number of 'multiverses'

Conflagration_Planet wrote:

Not to mention, our universe might be just on of a countless number of em.

Perhaps that 'multiverse' is only one of a countless number of 'multiverses'

Might be the case. :)

And perhaps that... oh never mind

And perhaps that... oh never mind

Could be a hacker just like you, making that same statement in another universe far FAR away.

By your hypothesis, in a countless number of far away universes.

If there are other universes, would they be theoretically accessible through the conventional dimensions of X Y Z and T? Or would they exist on some mysterious 'other plane'?

Weird stuff - I don't know a lot about physics but it's interesting and sort of makes your head explode trying to think about it.

Weird is right. It's not my hypothesis, and I know little about it, but other universes would never be accessible to us.

NO.