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KASPAROV VS CARLSEN WHO CAN DESTROY THE OTHER ??
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Well karpov at his peak level vs carlsen who wins?
Kasparov
Wow, Nizman looks different than I remember him.
I do not think it is possible to compare these two players. '
Or from Audel's Diesel Engine Manual?
@Andy I've changed now no more trouble. Carlsen pulled off an incredible win but fischer quited chess because of gazza
Nizman wrote:
@Andy I've changed now no more trouble. Carlsen pulled off an incredible win but fischer quited chess because of gazza
Was Gazza a time traveller, or did Fischer already know in 1975 how strong Kasparov would be 10 or 15 years in the future?
Savage wrote:
Carlsen's most impressive achievement is making Petrosian look like a firebrand.
Apart from achieving #1 on the rating list at 19 (the youngest ever, by far), achieving the highest rating ever at age 22, winning 12 of his last 18 tournaments, ...
Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Savage wrote:
Ratings are so inflated these days that the "highest rating ever" thing should really have an asterisk attached. That he's won tournaments is not in dispute; I was making the simple point that he's boring as batshit, if not more so.
Actually, you implied he had no impressive accomplishments, which is factually wrong, as you well know.
Whether his play is boring is of course a subjective matter, but suffice it to say, many super-GMs and other players far stronger than you or me find his play very interesting.
Are you talking both players in their prime or in present day? In thier prime I'd guess Kasparov. But that's just a guess. Today the younger player Carlsen would most likely triumph. It's a shame we can't travel through time, collecting all the greats and assembling them into one huge tournament. Then all the conjecture over who was best could be proven. Get them all right at the height of their ability....
Carlsen has a long way to go.
Savage wrote:
Ratings are so inflated these days that the "highest rating ever" thing should really have an asterisk attached. That he's won tournaments is not in dispute; I was making the simple point that he's boring as batshit, if not more so.
That depends on what you compare with. During their reigns as World Champions both Anand and Kramnik were seen as boring, and they didn't exactly win tournaments the way Carlsen is doing either. Topalov has been "exciting" but on the other hand a bit more unsound in his play.
In general I think the talk about Carlsen playing boring chess is exaggerated. Just looking at wins from 2013 there are games like:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1704802
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1705534
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1713205
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1713231
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1721397
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1721543
Carlsen takes over the game - exactly when the other player is ready to
relax and accept the draw. His tactical ability especially near the ending is sometimes scary at times.
His openings put him at a slight disadvantage in many instances that he fights
out of because he finds the opponent loses his way due to unfamiliarity.
In the candidates match he showed some real weaknesses on king saftey
- I'm sure something Anand is looking at - especially given Anand's ability to play on multiple fronts.
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Carlsen's biggest strength IMHO is he does not take chess to be more or less than
the game it is - he does not have romantic theories about it or require it to entertain him in some way.
sapientdust wrote:
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
They gave us a marvelous party theme (although not so good in colder climes).
point!
I'm surprised that nobody bumped this thread until now!
Guys whom do u think can destroy the other on a chess board!!
Neither they aren't rated that far apart but I would give the edge to Carlsen he's very young 22 he has youth and stamina on his side Kasparov is approaching 50 he hasn't played any serious chess except for some exhibitions games and simuls here and there since he retired.