My list of Top 10 chess players

  • #141
    fabelhaft wrote:

    "FIFA's corrupt, but that doesn't make the World Cup illegitimate. Same with FIDE and the Chess World Championship"

     

    But do you consider Khalifman, Kasimdzhanov etc to be the legitimate World Champions?

    Good point. No.

    Ponomariov either, for that matter.

    Topolov on the other hand, maybe. Talented player there.

  • #142

    When FIDE's world champion played FIDE's official challenger for the title outside the auspices of FIDE, FIDE had a choice. It could recognise the match or try to create a shadow champion. It made a bad choice. The shadow champions never had legitimacy as long as the original champion was active and defended his title against strong opponents such as Anand and Kramnik. 

    As long as Kasparov was #1 in the World and actively defending his title in match play against top opponents, nobody else could legitimately claim to be world champion.

    Kasparov was World Champion, and that title was passed on to Kramnik. Once Kasparov was out of the picture, FIDE worked to reunite the title. Chess isn't boxing.

    FIDE currently has management of the title. 

    I have a feeling fabelhaft agrees with that.

  • #143

    1. Petrosian

    2.Capablanca

    3.Kramnik

    4.Steinitz

    5.Lasker

    6.Botvinnik

    7.Nimzovich

    8.Karpov

    9.Rubinstein

    10.Reshevsky

  • #144

    1. Capablanca
    2. Kasparov
    3. Fischer
    4. Krakmnik
    5. Alekhine
    6. Petrosian
    7. Carlsen
    8. Lasker
    9. Morphy
    10. Botvinnik 

  • #145

    It always surprises me that so many of these lists have Kramnik in the top 5, ahead of Lasker, Karpov, Carlsen etc, and with Anand nowhere to be seen...

  • #146
    fabelhaft wrote:

    It always surprises me that so many of these lists have Kramnik in the top 5, ahead of Lasker, Karpov, Carlsen etc, and with Anand nowhere to be seen...

    Yeah. I know what you mean. 

    But kramnik has really had a profound impact on chess. For openings, anyway.

    His contributions to the Berlin Defence, and the Bayonette Attack have turned much of opening theory on it's head over the last 18 years or so.

    Tbh, I can't remember even the great Kasparov having such a dramatic impact.

  • #147
    JamieDelarosa wrote:

    World championship matches should be a minimum 6-wins, unlimited games.

    That is the best way to ensure the strongest player wins.

    Yuck.

    I remember that 1984 Karpov-Kasparov fiasco. That couldn't have good for chess.

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