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I agree. Lot of thick people came here to argue instead of discuss, so I left.
I was half-way through this thread before I realized that people weren't arguing about whether OTB tournaments should be held in vacation locations.
hi, about this vacation state. Does someone know if there is a time limit ? I'm stuck in a game since 2 months.
hi, about this vacation state. Does someone know if there is a time limit ? I'm stuck in a game since 2 months.>>
Hi, possibly as much as three months. I just had it happen to me. I'd just started two games with someone and they took a vacation for a month. But yesterday, I was making some moves and I realised I wasn't thinking at all clearly, so I made the moves I had to make and went on vacation. The reason is that my father died the day before yesterday. I think that the people who oppose vacations can't imagine circumstances under which people might wish not to be forced to continue having to play these games. I really cannot think of any reason other than stupidity and childish self-centredness. I'm sorry if it sounds insulting but I see it as a statement of objective fact. They may not be children but it sounds like they are.
"Because there are some people who in a losing position will go on vacation deliberately and stall the entire tournament for months."
Sorry man, but I find it hard to believe you are upset about a chess tournament two days after your father died. But maybe your grief urges you to blame no-vacation tournaments for this. Well, as hard it is and sorry for the loss of your father, A tournament organiser just can't take into account all the possible disasters that would prevent a player of playing a game of chess, like death, sickness, earthquakes, lightning strikes, hurricanes, floods, forest fires or meteorites.
So if your father died two days ago, why are you here bitching about no vacation tournaments and insulting the organisers? Aren't you in mourning?
So if your father died two days ago, why are you here bitching about no vacation tournaments and insulting the organisers? Aren't you in mourning?>>>This only bears out what I'm saying, that some people are willing to go to any lengths to justify their completely senseless ideas. This person doesn't understand that this thread was created before my father died at a time when he wasn't expected to die. Trying to use it as an argument in the way he has is pathetic and if I have insulted anyone, it is because they approached this discussion in a trollish and aggressive manner. Those who are aggressive and obsessive, and yet can't think of any good arguments to back up their ideas, tend to pounce on anything that indicates that they're being insulted because of it; yet that's exactly what they're inviting. It's the very basis of passive-aggression. All in all, I can't see any prospect of continuing this discussion with a probability that the emotionally incompetent people defending their self-centred ideas will see it from the point of view of a normal person, who balances life's events as best he can. So I'm out for good and you can continue it amongst yourselves. Peace out!
Once again: if you don't like No Vacation tournament, just don't play in them. There are plenty of tournaments that allow vacations. You can't play in all the events anyway, why complain about something that only affects you if you voluntarily let it?
Only permit vacation one time per game !!! I'm playing a game since March/2017 and my opponent play 3 moves and go on vacation for 3 months....
oh, thats bad
The following concerns daily chess, not live chess. I've never played blitz, so I can't say anything about that.
Thinking about all this I'm inclined to say that tournaments with vacation are a remnant of the time before internet and mobile phones. In the case of holidays: it's strange that chess is regarded as work. Aren't holidays the perfect time to play in a daily chess tournament? As mentioned above and elsewhere, vacation time can be abused to frustrate and or demoralise the opponent, especially when the one "going on holiday" is clearly in a losing position.
Then in the case of eventualities like sickness death or natural disasters it could be a good idea to have one period that each player could time out. But then again: would anyone worry about a chess tournament when for example one's house just burned to the ground?
Also there can be the stress of having to make a move every day, but then one can choose two day, three day of more day tournaments. In my enthousiasm I joined 9 tournaments and there are days that the last thing I want to do is play a game of chess, let alone 15. But that was my own choice and they are all 2 to 3 day tournaments.
So I second aandrade's suggestion that 1 vacation per tournament max would be ideal. It's up to the organiser of a tournament though.
And as a last thought: are chess tournaments on chess.com so important in one's life? Is there a pot of gold involved? No, the only thing you can win is a digital image of a prize of some sort and the only thing you can lose are rating points. As the points one loses by timing out don't say anything about one's playing strength, these points will be easily won back in future games. So why play in tournaments? It must be for the love for the game and the extra push/rush the competition gives.
So I wish you all a lot of exciting games, with or without vacation time.
No vacation makes the game more exciting for me.
I play mostly 14 day games, take vacations as I see fit, and would definitely not enter a no-vacation tournament.
There are those who prefer faster, no-vacation tournaments, and there's that option. It's optional. Someone else choosing to play a no-vacation tournament in no way impacts on me. How could it?