pre-moves-apartheid required ?

Why would pre-moves bother you?  You can take your full thinking time on each of conditional moves.

 I always admired the fighting spirit of the Afrikaners.

 English gave the world a concentration camps long before Hitler did, and Afrikaners gave the world a commando units.

As always , gold and diamonds(today oil;tomorrow - water) started the whole thing. Uitlanders quickly outnumbered the Afrikaners, and before you know it ... everything went "u pi*** materinu".

Sheesh, damn Englanders trying to take credit for concentration camps. It was the Americans that used them first on the Cherokees.

Mr. Mourinho also had a perfect opportunity for "a u pi*** materinu" several times :

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30112010/58/la-liga-barcelona-thrash-real-el-clasico.html

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29112010/2/photo/29112010201929.html

At the end of the game, he would have required a more appropriate form " a u tri(3) pi*** materine".

there were also the egyptians. 

Premoves are as much a helper as they are a hinderance. Sure, if all goes well you will save valuable fractions of a second on game time; however, keep in kind that premoves are essentially someone committing to a move before they know what their opponent will play. This in many ways goes against all logic and reason. It's a gamble, really.

Oh, yeah, those guys.

i wonder if it is a natural thing for a nation to protect itself in a selfish way....

i'm thinking that jews and afrikaners shared the same ordeal...and  both had lost a little confidence in stronger nations...and maybe that is why they have such a fighting spirit for self preservation.

Perhaps it is natural, that after a powerful nation try to wipe out your identity, that things happen the way they do...just to fight for your own people, just to give them a place where they can practice their culture...and to be left alone...

no one ever ask, how did the borders of our country came to be...

it was war...that is why other people can be themselves within their own borders.

Israel want what you take for granted.

afrikaner people, had to give away what they had...to satisfy those that have what they cannot give...

we have our culture, our own language, our own tradition, yet, we don't have a home of our own. we had it, but we gave it away so that others could feel better..  We have no leaders, and i am afraid that africa will just forget about us...

we are hopeful, that one day we will have self preservation, or just a place that when you get there, you can say, that in this country, the people that stay here, talk afrikaans, and this is their music, and people and food and schools and universities.

it would be wonderful to call back afrikaners from all across the world, to come back to their roots...not to have apartheid, but just to come home to their people...currently there is not such a place...not for us...

we are just being used to pay taxes to these other traditions and cultures so that they can develop themselves....

but one day, when they all understand, they would ask...but why did we used these people, why did we use the afrikaner people to uplift ourselves, and what is left of them now...

many of us live in poverty, we are a very proud people, but affirmative action and high taxes and crime and murder is breaking our spirit, bit by bit...

they become more like us, and we , more like them...

that movie, district9, is all about us...and what we did for africa, but this land is very brutal, so we stand strong.

perhaps we do give hope to the world.

perhaps we did show that less is more, and that to survive, you must pay the king what the king want...

it would be nice if the king was one of my own, but we have a king that don't know what we want, he don't have our dreams, or our smile...it is a king that use us...but we are free, because our fate is determined by him, and what he have, is what we gave, not to him, but to the whole world, so that they can believe in the goodness of hope and peace.

we have nothing to prove. we had shown our bravery in the passed, our fighting spirit is legendary, but we do not fight, we turn the other cheek now. Our destiny is not in our hands. It will come our way. Meanwhile we play rugby, we will not be forgotten, we are strong, and every-time you hear or think of afrikaans people, then you must know that bravery changed to peace.  Strength is just if you want to measure your own power...we don't want to measure ourselves to those that cannot forgive.

it is now time that we must be set free, to match the peace in our hearts:)

perhaps you can help us.

This thread has discussed pretty much everything except premoves so far.

i'm trolling for freedom

yeah, but the only thing apartheid have in common with pancake, is that one should keep the egg white and the egg yellow, apart.... damn chickens should have scrambled it, now i'm confused...we should make a move and braai a rainbow cake

a few options:

1. don't allow premoves unless both parties are using them. 

2. when the game starts, say "your opponent is using premoves [LINK]"

3. create a filter for seeks and challenges for PREMOVE enabled.

personally i like premoves and see it as a fun part of the game, and it really only makes a difference in bullet-style games, and if you're the kind of person who likes bullet, then you should like premoves. so the overlap of where premoves matter and who doesn't like them should be, in my opinion, very small. 

Nah, I think apartheid is the perfect word based on the OP's intent. The actual definition of apartheid is being in a state of being apart.

Sure it has some racial undertones due to a couple of minor incidences of indiscriminate division of the South African land (when fireballz mentioned the seperate areas he conveniently forgot about how us white afrikaners got all the areas originally grabbed by the @#!@# brits). Although South-Africa would not be the economic powerhouse it is now without it...

Like most Afrikaners I'm not overly PC and proud of it 

Now pannekoek (link) has nothing in common with pancake. Pancake is more like a South African flapjack to most of CC's population, and pannekoek is more like a tortilla with the exception that is goes great with cinnamon sugar (lots and lots of cinnamon sugar ). But apartheid and pannekoek has more in common than you may think fireballz, both start out seperated, end up mixed together by an unstoppable force and goes down in flames great (well, sort of, you know what I mean) 

P.S. I think that Afrikaners and Israeli's share a bond built out of necessity that can only be appreciated by someone who actually lived inside either...

yeah, i must say, sometimes it is nice to look back, especially in this world cup, and to see, that we accepted our new destiny. we have a role to play...and the outside world was wonderful in supporting us.  Our economy got a much needed boost.

Projects like preparing for the world-cup is great...In our city, the flags are still waving of all the countries that played here...I guess the people don't want to forget about your visits It was great!

we don't get many visitors, but it was very, very nice having pplz over from other countries...

...the world do care...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLg-8Jxi5aE

would all three be overkill ?

i like premoves too even/especially when the other guy yells "cheat" and starts foaming at the mouth -i know i know christmas and all that.

it is a small wrinkle in an exceedingly good site as mr. kipling might say (if he were not a figment of the adman's imagination)

a local chess genius who runs a vacuum cleaner bag outlet suggested that all players begin with 1700 as opposed to 1200 points (as apparently some other chess site chooses to do) I see newbies who fall from their pristine 1200 to under 1000 in the first few matches as much as from unfamiliarity with the workings as from lack of ability  and wonder if chess.com loses members crestfallen at this initial cold bath !

making up those points even back to 1200 can take a long time. maybe a suggestion to new members or a default position that their first 10 games be unrated might help. 

Now you are just waffling Ivandh

 Yes. Pancakes and waffles. Waffles for a thumbs up and pancakes for a thumbs down. This thread would be worthwhile, despite all the nonsense, if we could get this implemented.

LOL