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Tyzer

At this point, making a new thread is moot; so I'm not going to bother. However, I still stand by my view that creating a thread with an incorrect solution could quite possibly be more detrimental than not making the thread at all. In addition, the solution in this case is easily found with an endgame tablebase, so there is really no excuse for putting up the wrong solution. Basically, I'm saying if you want to make something like this, you'd better make sure your answer is correct, otherwise it's worse than not doing anything. No partial credit for wrong answers, sorry!

heinzie

Agreed with both. This thread just reinforces my belief you shouldn't believe anything you see on the Internet.

chessmaster12344
heinzie wrote:

Agreed with both. This thread just reinforces my belief you shouldn't believe anything you see on the Internet.


? I don't get it...

chessmaster12344

OK tyzer, I HAVE CORRECTED IT! YOU CAN"T SAY ANYTHING TO ME NOW! MUAHAAHAHAHAHA (evily laughs)

ShadowIKnight

He can, and I can too. Delete the bottom one dammit. Or I will troll this thread. 4.evaaaaaa (evily laughs)

chessmaster12344

I mentioned the top is proper so I win shadowknight. Checkmate. MUAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!Laughing (evily laughs)

ShadowIKnight

No you dont because for SOME reason theres a POINTLESS WRONG puzzle on the bottom, which people will find A WASTE OF TIME and possibly even MISLEADING. Don't make me write a letter to argue with a random chess person for my GCSE english section B =O (evily laughs)

waffllemaster

Didn't notice the solution was correct at first (top puzzle) because of course a rank down it's a draw and because the pawn wasn't on the 6th yet I didn't recognize the winning position :)  So this was good for me to see.

For those that are unfamiliar with these patterns (and post puzzles like #2 :)  Here's what I mean visually.

 

waffllemaster
ReasonableDoubt wrote:

 

Time for a real puzzle .  This position is all based on zugzwang and reserve tempos.  The moves may not appear to make sense, but if you calculate out all of the other candidate moves then you will see that the play in the puzzle is actually optimal.  Credit for where I found the position goes to Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual.  Black to play and draw.

 


This would be incredibly clever to work out OTB :)  I suppose it's lost on tempo anyway, so black should be looking for a trick like this?  Otherwise about 0 chance I'd see solution in a game (I didn't see it here of course).

waffllemaster

lol, visions of pawn endgames comming back to me... they're telling me something... they're saying... "work on the basics"  ouch :)

I've lost some pawn endgames where a much simpler idea was there... but at the end of the game when you're tired it's just hard to see unless you already know the pattern. 

Here is a tourney (USCF) game I kept rooks on and went on to lose as black.  My limited patterns here were telling me to fear his protected passer in the K&P endgame, but in analysis a simple drawing idea appears that was invisible to me during the game.

 

chessmaster12344

thanks to skeptical knight for solving

chessmaster12344

So anyways thanks to skepticalknight for solution