Quitting after losing Queen.
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If material point-differential is not cataclysmic then playing on for a few more moves does no harm & helps come to terms with Q blunder.
Mar 14, 2014
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#24
Hey man, I didn't call YOU crazy. I was in fact referring to the ACTION of quitting after such a miniscule loss so early in the game. This thread should not have turned into what it is now.
All I wanted to do was get insight on why people resign when they lose queens ESPECIALLY when they have a board full of pieces. It is outlandish and takes away from the sport.
How you play YOUR game is how you play YOUR game, who am I to pass judgement? I only wanted to know why you'd feel defeated after such a small loss so early in the game (reffering to the pawn loss). Lets not forget the scenario I gave...
Only pussies would quit after blundering Queen. Pawns win chess games.
Mar 14, 2014
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#26
bobyyyy wrote:
Quitting after losing Queen.
It can be a dumb thing to do. After winning an opponent's queen I have lost games, and after losing my queen I have won games. Resigning is something I avoid unless the position is way beyond hopeless.
I couldn't agree with you more. Too many times have I won massive material gains on my opponent (the queen) only to later be shocked when my opponent uses a pieces like the knight to win mine and sometimes even win the game altogether. Chess is ever changing, all it takes is a mistake or an oversight or in some cases some deep calculation.
Mar 14, 2014
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#27
-waller- wrote:
MCFan wrote:
I regularly resign when down only a single pawn
This is stopping you from becoming a stronger player. One of the things that makes a master is the fact that they fight on in worse positions, making their opponent work to beat them. They don't take the attitude that "whoever makes the first material-losing mistake, should resign".
If you play chess purely, and I mean purely, for fun, ignore what I just said. If you play and hope to improve, show some fight. I don't mean to say don't resign, even when the position is dead hopeless. But if you still have the chance to pose your opponent some problems, play on.
The example given in post #7 is one where you should play on. Why would the game be "drawn-out" or "boring" just because you're a bishop for a pawn down? There's still plenty of play left! (And there's nothing wrong with a long game!)
Very well said.
Mar 14, 2014
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#29
OMFG, my head hurts just reading these comments from people with IQs below 20.
In response to the original post, if I drop my queen for nothing, I'm resigning, plain and simple! There better be major compensation for me to stay in.
As for message #9, get real! You didn't lose your queen, you traded it for the two rooks as you knew you were getting the minor piece back, and two rooks are better than a queen the majority of the time!
There are a kazillion times where I've traded away my Queen for something other than my opponent's Queen. Two Rooks, Rook Minor Piece and Pawn, 3 Minors, even just a Rook and Minor, or Two Minors (There's a known Queen sacifice in the Four Knights Game where White gets 2 minors for it).
Chess is about the position at hand. If it's dead lost, you resign. If it's not, you don't. It has nothing to do with whether or not your bitch is still on the board! Sheesh!
I have wons games where I droped a queen-keep playing
I dont cry and quit like a little baby-who knows that person might blunder away his queen
I generally play on in hopelessly lost positions. In a chess960 game, I blundered my queen on the second move and managed to slowly work my way back into the game and ended up in an unclear endgame (probably a draw), and my opponent timed out:
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=84388204
this was agaisnt one of my friends, so there was much pride on the line
In this this game, I was two pawns down in a rook endgame which was converted into a [lost] lucena position, but my opponent played poorly, and I managed to draw:
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=85607070
In a tournament game, I blundered my knight on around move 10 in a sicilian defense by simply moving a pawn that was protecting the knight. I played on vigorously, and my opponent became overconfident and attempted to simplify rather than play the objectively best moves. I managed to trade off pawns and drew a complicated endgame with only a few minutes left on my clock at the end. My opponent was around USCF 1650, and the draw allowed me to place in the tournament and win a free chess set.
In blitz chess, I never resign unless I'm frustrated or have something else to do. In standard or correspondence, I may resign if my position is truly hopeless, and my opponenet is rated > 1700
I personally enjoy attempting to defend weaker positions. I think that it is reasonable to play on if probability of draw or win is >/= 0.1%
Mar 15, 2014
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#33
richb8888 wrote:
I dont cry and quit like a little baby-who knows that person might blunder away his queen
Happens all the time. Moral of the story for people like us, keep playing.
Mar 15, 2014
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#34
tRuLyGiFtEd89 wrote:
I get it, losing your Queen, especially due to blunder hurts. But in open game to middle game the game is still winnable even with that major disadvantage...My opponent losses her Queen and without hesitation resigns the game. She was up on material and all...LMAO? That urge to quit is kinda weird, not complaining just saying.
Anyone else out there accustomed to quitting after losing your Queen eary in the game?
Welcome to the internet- home to petulant brats.
for me it depends, on what peice did you exchange for a queen, or what part of the game did you lose your queen(opening, middlegame, endgame)
if you lose your queen to his bishop or knight in the endgame where both of you have something like 2 pawns left, my golly, end the torture..sooner or later either one of these would happen1.) one of those pawns he has would most likely morph to another queen with the help of his existing queen or2.) you will lose the minor peice and he will morph the pawns to queens lol..
if you lose your queen in the opening or middle game, continue for around 5 moves and check how your opponent plays with the advantage..if you lose some pawns or another peice, then end the torture..if he moves himself into a complicated position, then continue playing..Thats all.
If the following cumulative conditions apply :
(1) you know the position is lost ;
(2) you know how to win it if you were the opponent with enough confidence that you would bet your life on it ;
(3) the stakes for which you are playing times the probability your opponent blunders into giving you a draw or a win do not balance out the cost of losing time by playing on ;
then, and only then, you can resign.
(3) means quite a few things - that you have better reasons to play on if there is tournament money on the line, or if you are not sure whether the opponent saw the winning way, or if you consider your time worthless.