The biggest crooks on this earth are the guys with the most money.
Racism on live chess
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bigpoison wrote:
The biggest crooks on this earth are the guys with the most money.
They don't ever get thrown in jail though.
So this is not such a serious forum, lol because if the goal was to get to the bottom of the issue, a study of economics, history and biology would reveal very sound theories, erasing any doubt for a rational individual. Perhaps that is the issue, complex questions are provided with false dichotomies as their answers, when in fact the answers require solid knowledge in one or two subjects, peripheral knowledge in several others and a range of empirical evidence not biased by insulated experiences.
We can all agree at least that trolls are not people right?
They don't have the rights endowed naturally to Homo Sapiens.
No, he's spot on.
Moses2792796 wrote:
netzach wrote:
Nevertheless you cannot generalise. Below the US (and others) are numerous countries with abject poverty that have much less crime.
So you are suggesting that poverty and crime are not linked in any way???
Are you suggesting that poverty [for minorities] and racism are not linked in any way?
That's almost funny.
Sometimes people like to say a given thing does not exist because believing so is the strategy with the most incentive. They think "I am not racist, I dont support racist, racist people are placing an unfair burden on me because I am being penalized for something I didnt do. So I will say racism does not exist and if I live in a homogenous community I can reinforce this belief easily." Seems unprofitable to force an error correction. Some people believe a man walked on water 2000 years ago and turns water into wine. Some people not only do not believe in god but believe demonstrating the argument "god exist" invalid infers he does not exist. I guess if we are going to take away everyone's irrational beliefs we would be more efficient, less fun and, worst of all there would be more competition. Who wants that. Definitely unprofitable. Lets all try to encourage each other's erroneous thinking so we can keep the competition low, the world dangerous and god happy.
Gilded_Candlelight made an excellent point earlier along the lines of: "racism is a result of ignorance." However some will choose to simply be ignorant of racism, and this is part of the problem.
So, that tells us that you've probably never been to the U.S., and that you have lived in your own little world for quite some time.
There are 3 possibilities:
1. Racism is getting worse.
2. Racism is staying the same.
3. Racism is dying.
Race, for humans, does not exist. For humans race is a biological myth. So racist are idiots. Race preference is idiocy. Idiocy exist. It is a real observable phenomena.
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
Race, for humans, does not exist. For humans race is a biological myth. So racist are idiots. Race preference is idiocy. Idiocy exist. It is a real observable phenomena.
True. How else to explain someone like me winning chess games?
Feb 27, 2013
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@Ubik42: there are always at least 5 possibilities.
1. a
2. not a
3. a or not a
4. nor a nor not a
5. was a actually the good term to cover what is seen?
The first four come from Nagarjuna, Indian philosopher whose work about logic I admire. The fifth is the question I add to it to make it complete.
With regards to racism:
1. there is racism, - like people insulting other people after losing a game of chess
2. there is no racism, -when poverty (of mind) could explain the fact better
3. it can be racism or not racism, -when somebody is shouting 'you stupid N' to a white person like Moyuba. It is racism, but the insulter uses the wrong type of accusation.
4. this is nor racism nor is it not racism, - there is a genetic difference between people from parts of Ethiopia etc making them much better for long distance running then the rest of humanity. All those people turn out to be black, but the genetic enhancement (muscles acidificate much less) has nothing to do with the color of their skin.
5. is the term racism valid to use? are there better terms describing what is to explained? In every society, even when there were no different races present, has there been made distinctions between people based on characteristics the people themselves cannot change. Color of skin is one way to do it, but there are so many more. Is racism just one way or is it something special among other ways to discriminate? The importance of this latter question is that it might lead to a solution. If you keep on looking at the facts from that old perspective, then might you never find a way out of the maze. To fight racism one can be best open minded, don't you think so?
So, what might be the best way to deal with apparent racist remarks on chess.com?
LoekBergman wrote:
@Ubik42: there are always at least 5 possibilities.
1. a
2. not a
3. a or not a
4. nor a nor not a
5. was a actually the good term to cover what is seen?
The first four come from Nagarjuna, Indian philosopher whose work about logic I admire. The fifth is the question I add to it to make it complete.
With regards to racism:
1. there is racism, - like people insulting other people after losing a game of chess
2. there is no racism, -when poverty (of mind) could explain the fact better
3. it can be racism or not racism, -when somebody is shouting 'you stupid N' to a white person like Moyuba. It is racism, but the insulter uses the wrong type of accusation.
4. this is nor racism nor is it not racism, - there is a genetic difference between people from parts of Ethiopia etc making them much better for long distance running then the rest of humanity. All those people turn out to be black, but the genetic enhancement (muscles acidificate much less) has nothing to do with the color of their skin.
5. is the term racism valid to use? are there better terms describing what is to explained? In every society, even when there were no different races present, has there been made distinctions between people based on characteristics the people themselves cannot change. Color of skin is one way to do it, but there are so many more. Is racism just one way or is it something special among other ways to discriminate? The importance of this latter question is that it might lead to a solution. If you keep on looking at the facts from that old perspective, then might you never find a way out of the maze. To fight racism one can be best open minded, don't you think so?
So, what might be the best way to deal with apparent racist remarks on chess.com?
+1
Usually forums descend into trolling not out of trolling. Now I have seen it all.
What a powerful, dialectical troll feeding.
Nevertheless you cannot generalise. Below the US (and others) are numerous countries with abject poverty that have much less crime.
So you are suggesting that poverty and crime are not linked in any way???
I am suggesting that trying to deny something exists does not make it so. Including racism & crime.