Stalemate was invented by a loser

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VerifiedChessYarshe

I edited the comment to be clearer. This position is not possible if you play.

The_Mysterious854
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:

I edited the comment to be clearer. This position is not possible if you play.

Everyone knows that.

VerifiedChessYarshe

Did you waste my time to answer your question about achieving that position using magic?

The_Mysterious854
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:

Did you waste my time to answer your question about achieving that position using magic?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Calfrodite

lol XD

VerifiedChessYarshe
playerafar wrote:

VCY
good luck trying to maintain the King can still move after stalemate.
And pun intended ...
Peace out.
Sanjay - good luck trying to reason with VCY.
And I like that Gupta guy on TV. The health stuff.
Later.

Please don't act like a judge in arguments. This is an opinion's forum

The_Mysterious854
GODOFCOW321321 wrote:

lol XD

XD

haveyouseencyan

OMG guys I knew this would rile people up but I got 92 notifications

Calfrodite

lol hi

Calfrodite

oh a new interesting opinion!!! grin.png

RandomChessPlayer62

If stalemate is removed, how do we choose who will win when stalemate would occur?

If it's based on material or who made the last move, white wins here even though they are incapable of winning.

If it is based who has the most time left, black could win here even though white was clearly winning before stalemate.

Calfrodite

lol XD

AgileElephants

Another beginner blundered a stalemate...

Calfrodite

hi Agile

VerifiedChessYarshe
RandomChessPlayer62 wrote:

If stalemate is removed, how do we choose who will win when stalemate would occur?

If it's based on material or who made the last move, white wins here even though they are incapable of winning.

If it is based who has the most time left, black could win here even though white was clearly winning before stalemate.

the 1st position- because if the black king were to move, he would get captured. He is encircled, so a win for white is logical.

2nd position- same criteria as the first

blueemu

It boggles the mind listening to people whine about stalemate.

When you stalemate your opponent, it is almost always your own fault... it happened because you stopped paying attention. Forced stalemates are extremely rare.

I have ZERO sympathy for people who get overconfident, lose their focus on the game, give away their advantage... and then WHINE about the consequences of their mistake.

Zero.

Calfrodite

lol

AgileElephants
blueemu wrote:

I have ZERO sympathy for people who get overconfident, lose their focus on the game, give away their advantage... and then WHINE about the consequences of their mistake.

The thing is they do not whine about the consequences of their mistakes. It is always something else that unfairly prevented them from winning.

DrSpudnik
blueemu wrote:

It boggles the mind listening to people whine about stalemate.

When you stalemate your opponent, it is almost always your own fault... it happened because you stopped paying attention. Forced stalemates are extremely rare.

I have ZERO sympathy for people who get overconfident, lose their focus on the game, give away their advantage... and then WHINE about the consequences of their mistake.

Zero.

Total agreement: I directed a tournament some years ago where one player got a second queen and his opponent stared at the board for a few seconds and shouted "Stalemate!" The two-queen guy got up, ran out the room and that was the last he was seen in area tournaments.

EndgameEnthusiast2357
HyperbolicRevenge wrote:
Shrimp-Biryani wrote:

Just a note.

Well, maybe it shouldn't always be a loss for the stalemated player in your example, but rather... There should be a Stalemate vs Insufficient Material rule. The game will be a draw if one player gets stalemated, but the other player has insufficient material. Easy solution. Besides, the chances of your example happening are very low anyways.

Well this is what I was getting at before. It's not that I disagree with the reasoning that if the king would have no choice but to move into check the next move that one could argue is a loss. It is the fact that stalemate would end up having a different result depending on the position if it's not a draw for both players. Oh and there's a 5th type which I forgot to mention:

The black king isn't in danger of being taken its just that black can not make a move, so stalemate doesn't mean one side could take the king next move if the side made an illegal move anyway.