Besides what is wrong with suicidal opponents that means just easy wins.
I always looked at it this way.
Games are for fun not wining thats why i play games
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Wining sudgests a prize, and in this case on this site its i duno points or trophys.
Can you imagine somone telling you that you won fun?
Just saying that doesnt sound right.
Equal trades are not suicides, especially bishop for knight or bishop for bishop trades - one piece can be positionally superior to another, or recapturing might inconvenience the opponent.
That sounds like fear driving you.
Someone mentioend this ealier simplifying the board.
As for your choice of the word inconvenience, thats not gd enough for me. It just sounds like spiting your opponent not getting them in anyway.
I disagree its like blocking a punch with a punch. You just wouldnt do it.
The objective of chess is to checkmate your opponent. Sometimes trading pieces gets you closer to that goal, or gives you a position where that goal is easier to achieve. You seem to have completely failed to understand the game of chess which is probably why your rating isn't higher. If you don't like how chess is played then maybe you should come up with a game with differerent rules...
This is not the first time ive been told this.
Despite my several explanation on what i consider trade and what i consider sacrifice im still being told i cant realise the difference between the two.
Despite, in essence the opening post is questioning if im the only one who felt that most of the people they played on this site chose to trade instead of sacrfice. Leaving you the option to say yes no explain why you do this why dont do this.
Despite this im being told i dont realise the advantages of sacrificing pieces.
Basicly what your saying is stfu noob.
Thanks.
Its ironic tbh while im typing this im watching a high rated game (dual screen) and the same old thing one runs out of time both under 1 min time left, both equal amount of pieces left.
A game where you play time more than your opponent heh why not make it even more simple and jsut have 30 second games. 10 seconds. If thats how its suposed to be played.
Okay, seriously? Maybe if you actually understood the nuances of trading pieces in the overall strategy of chess, your rating would be higher.
Your first example was not a sacrifice. White did not give up any material there so it can't be a sacrifice. If you keep on using chess terms in a completely wrong way, people will keep on telling you stfu noob.
Giving up your knight in order to trap the opponent's queen can be considered as a sacrifice (although some say that if you have a forced line to win the queen, that is not a real sacrifice). However, it is not a sacrifice if you take a piece of equal value with your knight because you don't lose any material in the first place.
The second example indeed was a suicide. White just didn't see the kinght on h6 and gave up his queen for nothing. It's also called a blunder. If you're complaining about your opponents blundering constantly, I have a hint: don't resign games with no reason so your rating will increase and you get to play against better opponents.
In addition you are constantly talking about blunders and simple trades of equal value in the same way, which is confusing everybody.
Hey champ - is it possible, perhaps, that it's not that every single other player is playing 'cowardly and pointless' moves (including grandmasters!), but that... here's the crazy part, you're so massively clueless about the real nature of the game that you can't even begin to understand why such trades happen, even after frank explanation?
Checked out your profile after readin the post. You apparently didn't move after your opponent "suicided" (traded pieces) because you felt like he was disrespectful.
Well, wake up dude, you are the one who lacks basic manners.
Link to the game: http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=398626029
Also, tell me, would you leave the game after my 7th move because I was suicidal?: http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=62470696
Hey champ - is it possible, perhaps, that it's not that every single other player is playing 'cowardly and pointless' moves (including grandmasters!), but that... here's the crazy part, you're so massively clueless about the real nature of the game that you can't even begin to understand why such trades happen, even after frank explanation?
I agree wholeheartedly... seriosly, everyone has explained this to you several times!!
Its ironic tbh while im typing this im watching a high rated game (dual screen) and the same old thing one runs out of time both under 1 min time left, both equal amount of pieces left.
A game where you play time more than your opponent heh why not make it even more simple and jsut have 30 second games. 10 seconds. If thats how its suposed to be played.
You don't have to play blitz if you don't want to. Some people want to.
Checked out your profile after readin the post. You apparently didn't move after your opponent "suicided" (traded pieces) because you felt like he was disrespectful.
Well, wake up dude, you are the one who lacks basic manners.
Link to the game: http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=398626029
Clearly to our friend the rocket scientist/brain surgeon, chess is about mating on f2/f7 before any pieces get traded - which if someone is rude enough to do, resign out of disgust. The good thing is, you never have to take your terrible rating as an indication that you're perhaps a little misguided, because you're resigning out of indignation half the time! Win win!
Checked out your profile after readin the post. You apparently didn't move after your opponent "suicided" (traded pieces) because you felt like he was disrespectful.
Well, wake up dude, you are the one who lacks basic manners.
Link to the game: http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=398626029
Deliberately losing should be forbidden and a reason for suspension in every respectable chess site. I couldn't find any mention of it here, does anybody know?
Hey champ - is it possible, perhaps, that it's not that every single other player is playing 'cowardly and pointless' moves (including grandmasters!), but that... here's the crazy part, you're so massively clueless about the real nature of the game that you can't even begin to understand why such trades happen, even after frank explanation?
We live in a universe of infinet diversity in infinet combination.
Thats a nice way to describe consciousness i belive.
I have made no statements which apply to everyone.
Youve simply chosen to imply i have then ridicule how rediculus that is.
Nothing's wrong with a little indignation... but this quantity of it makes me want to throw up.
Checked out your profile after readin the post. You apparently didn't move after your opponent "suicided" (traded pieces) because you felt like he was disrespectful.
Well, wake up dude, you are the one who lacks basic manners.
Link to the game: http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=398626029
Clearly to our friend the rocket scientist/brain surgeon, chess is about mating on f2/f7 before any pieces get traded - which if someone is rude enough to do, resign out of disgust. The good thing is, you never have to take your terrible rating as an indication that you're perhaps a little misguided, because you're resigning out of indignation half the time! Win win!
This again? instead of commenting on the topic. People chose to dig up past games on this account Deliberatly looking for ones lost. Then attempting to insult asthough they know me. They know i played those games. They know the history behind me and said player.
If you dont have anything to say why speak?
That game seems pretty relevant to the topic, you insufferable donut.
I've gawked at this one for long enough, time to effect my egress.
I mean you dont belive what your saying so why go on and on expecting me to mada mada
I don't understand what answers you want.
If you keep using words like suicide or sacrifice when you mean trade, how can you expect to get serious answers?
If you don't know why players may want to trade in a specific position, or don't know what benefits it may bring, why not post a position and ask.
If you want to play people who only make logical trades stop resigning and improve your rating.
If you keep resigning when people trade you'll never play a game of chess. Why not pick another game?
Reading this thread is like reading youtube comments.
Equal trades are not suicides, especially bishop for knight or bishop for bishop trades - one piece can be positionally superior to another, or recapturing might inconvenience the opponent.