True or false? Chess will never be solved! why?


  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1141

    cjd2001

    http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Solving_chess http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess I believe to to answer this question, aside from the ones where a mate is made because of an avoidable error, every possible game would have to be analysed by some hefty super computer. I say this because there could be a massive amount of sacrifices in the "perfect game". With todays technology we can not say what percentage of possible games are pointless, throwaway games but if I had to guess I'd say it was about 99%. Chess will always be playable but the short answer is... yes, one day! But is it a draw like naughts and crosses? Or does white have to win?

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1142

    Akatsuki64

    If in ten years it is solved it is falsely true, otherwise if it is not solved it is truely false.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1143

    millionairesdaughter

    Call Sherlock Holmes!!

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1144

    millionairesdaughter

    A perfect football match is a 0-0 draw.

    Exciting stuff!

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1145

    Jenium

    AndyClifton wrote:

    Certainly it seems like this question will never be solved...

    only if chess will never be solved.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1146

    millionairesdaughter

    Will chess ever be dissolved ?

    (Oh please!)

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1147

    ponz111

    shockinn wrote:
    ElderSchmoe wrote:
    ponz111 wrote:

    The term "chess will never be solved" is ambigous. What does it mean?

    If the question is "is chess a draw with perfect play on both sides?" the answer is "yes". 

    Couldn't have said it better myself.  

    You are an idiot. Both question have the same meaning and nobody knows whether it will be a draw with perfect play.

    Most people or chess players believe the two statements have different meanings.  "solved" means analyzed to a draw with ALL possible variations such as has been done in chess positions with only a few pieces.

    Is chess a draw with best possible moves? Means is chess a draw regardless if a chess computer ever solves chess by analyzing all variations.

    The answer to the 2nd question is "yes"

    The answer to can chess ever be "solved" is "probably not."

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1148

    Akatsuki64

    Chess will be solved when I have finished my super quantum computer.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1149

    ponz111

    schookin   Virtually all the strong players disagree with you.  More than 99.8% of the grandmasters disagree with you.  I also disagree with you.

    I know chess is a draw with best play for both sides.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1150

    MBClevenger

    Ponz111 How do you "know" it's a draw with perfect play for both sides? Can you prove it? No? Then you don't "know."

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1151

    adumbrate

    False, because when it is solved, we will edit one rule and it will take a very long time before it gets solved again.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1152

    adumbrate

    Plus it will not be solved during my time anyways

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1153

    ponz111

    MBClevenger wrote:

    Ponz111 How do you "know" it's a draw with perfect play for both sides? Can you prove it? No? Then you don't "know."

    All the evidence tells me chess is a draw with best play for both sides.

    my  60 plus years of playing also tells me this.

    Do you really think 99.8% of the grandmasters are wrong and you are right?

    As players progress in chess skill, they know more and more that chess is a draw with best play for both sides.

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #1154

    timbeau

    what is "solved"? Chess isn't a crossword... and no  I've not read ther thread start either... maybe I really should check it out, but meantime...

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #1155

    Shippen

    timbeau wrote:

    what is "solved"? Chess isn't a crossword... and no  I've not read ther thread start either... maybe I really should check it out, but meantime...

    Solved as in the puzzle has perfect solution.

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #1156

    blastforme

    It doesn't matter to chess players if the game is ever solved because there will never be a person capable of memorizing all of the variations well enough to make use of the solutions.. It would be like Ford Prefect knowing that the answer to the ultimately important and question is 42, but that the question itself is unknowable :oP
  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #1157

    btickler

    timbeau wrote:

    what is "solved"? Chess isn't a crossword... and no  I've not read ther thread start either... maybe I really should check it out, but meantime...

    Don't bump a year and half old thread (since the last post) if you're not even going to read any of it.  Was there a point in it?


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