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checkmator11111

Underpromotion is where you promote a pawn to a piece other than a Queen. We normally do underpromotion to avoid stalemate, or, may want to promote to a knight to do a knight fork, or possibly checkmate.

Promotion to a bishop is very rare, though sometimes you DO want to underpromote to one. For example, consider the position below:

The best move here is indeed f8=B, since Q and R result in stalemate, and f8=N+ MIGHT be able to checkmate, but it'll take a long time at least, but with f8=B, it's an easy mate in 8:

if 1... Kg8, it will be mate in 7:

Do YOU have any games where you underpromoted? (BTW I didn't have this in any of my games, this is just an example that I invented)
Stuvychess

I know. What do you expect. I played longer than you.

checkmator11111

but some people havent

Cool_Prakhar
Yeah I do have a couple. But I did it for fun, not for benefit...
checkmator11111

A lot of people do that

checkmator11111

Guys watch out for stalemate when you're promoting a pawn

eric0022
checkmator11111 wrote:

Underpromotion is where you promote a pawn to a piece other than a Queen. We normally do underpromotion to avoid stalemate, or, may want to promote to a knight to do a knight fork, or possibly checkmate.

Promotion to a bishop is very rare, though sometimes you DO want to underpromote to one. For example, consider the position below:

 

The best move here is indeed f8=B, since Q and R result in stalemate, and f8=N+ MIGHT be able to checkmate, but it'll take a long time at least, but with f8=B, it's an easy mate in 8:

 

if 1... Kg8, it will be mate in 7:

 
Do YOU have any games where you underpromoted? (BTW I didn't have this in any of my games, this is just an example that I invented)

 

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of underpromotions here are for fun i.e. underpromoting unnecessarily.

 

There is also one other reason an underpromotion is viable.

 

 

Promoting to a queen in this case would be bad, as White will probably capture the queen no matter what. Illegal moves are not allowed on this site, so if White accidentally drags the rook to a2, for example, the system would not register the illegal move and will therefore ask White to make another move.

 

However, Black can promote the pawn to a bishop. This time, if White mouse-slips his rook to a2, the move would be registered into the system, as 42. Ra2 will be a legal move in this instance. If that ever happens, then the newly promoted bishop can escape.

 

In that situation, an underpromotion to a bishop is much better.

 

Here is the game above.

 

 

Stuvychess

Yeah 

checkmator11111

You may think of 1. Nf4, resulting in 1... exf4 preventing stalemate, but Black may play 1... Kh8! to make it mate in 9.

CounterproductiveHam

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ponz111

Here is one of my 15 minutes per side games.  Actually the whole game only took about 7 minutes.

 

ponz111

the last move should read 11. bxa8=Nch  and Black resigned. Note promoting to a Q loses.

checkmator11111

noice

 

checkmator11111
ponz111 wrote:

the last move should read 11. bxa8=Nch  and Black resigned. Note promoting to a Q loses.

to 11...Qxf2#

 

m_connors

I don't recall having played a game where I have under promoted; however, I have done several puzzles where that had to be done. In at least one, promoting to a Knight resulted in checkmate. And as noted above, the others were done to avoid stalemate, leaving open an eventual checkmate. 

checkmator11111

y do people underpromote for fun though?

checkmator11111
2 underpromotions (even though last one isn't necessary)

2... Kf3 is still checkmate

checkmator11111

Saavedra position

 

checkmator11111

6. c8=Q?? Rc4+! 7. Qxc4 1/2-1/2