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V3 Tactics trainer still punishes use of time

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Nino_98
So when we got v3 we were promised that the tactics trainer would only reward bonus points when a puzzle was don right quickly enough, but I still get 1-3 points everytime I think about the puzzle for a while. Shouldn't this be fixed?
Candidate35
Before you could lose points for getting puzzles right when you used to much time. Now you can't lose points for getting puzzles right. That's the fix.
ChessOfPlayer

You are not punished.  I am happy to recieve points for solving problems slowly.  I am extra pleased with a large pass rate.  You are only punished if you get points taken from you.

Nino_98

I wouldn't really call 1 point a reward for a puzzle above your rating! (I am rated 1900 in tactics trainer, the puzzle was 1928) Shouldn't the standard be at least 1-8 points(depending on rating of puzzle) +points for time management in the puzzles? The point is to reward for using less time, but with this system, you could solve a much hard puzzle and get +1, but would get -8 for not solving an equally hard puzzle. Therefore, you would get -7 points and thus be punished for using more time. It doesn't make sense!

SilentKnighte5

Just give everyone 100 points just for trying.

GodsPawn2016

if you get it wrong you should lose points.  This Tee-Ball mindset of "Everyone is a winner" is killing sports, and competition.

Gunina87

I think it would be nice if they gave you the option to do tactics trainer without a time limit affecting your score as well as what they have at the minute, you know the way they do it on chesstempo with 2 different tactic trainer settings. Some times if your not that quick at calculating on chess.coms tactics trainer you can get 9 out of 10 tactics right and your rating doesn't change because you get 1 point for the 9 you got right  and -9 for the one you got wrong, its a bit frustrating i find.

GodsPawn2016
Gunina87 wrote:

I think it would be nice if they gave you the option to do tactics trainer without a time limit affecting your score as well as what they have at the minute, you know the way they do it on chesstempo with 2 different tactic trainer settings. Some times if your not that quick at calculating on chess.coms tactics trainer you can get 9 out of 10 tactics right and your rating doesn't change because you get 1 point for the 9 you got right  and -9 for the one you got wrong, its a bit frustrating i find.

Youre under pressure from the clock during an OTB rated game, so why do you want to eliminate that when practicing?

ChessOfPlayer
SilentKnighte5 wrote:

Just give everyone 100 points just for trying.

Yes.  People are way to sensitive.  I complained about it from time to time in V2's facist marking scheme.  But there is nothing wrong with V3.

Gunina87
GodsPawn2016 wrote:
Gunina87 wrote:

I think it would be nice if they gave you the option to do tactics trainer without a time limit affecting your score as well as what they have at the minute, you know the way they do it on chesstempo with 2 different tactic trainer settings. Some times if your not that quick at calculating on chess.coms tactics trainer you can get 9 out of 10 tactics right and your rating doesn't change because you get 1 point for the 9 you got right  and -9 for the one you got wrong, its a bit frustrating i find.

Youre under pressure from the clock during an OTB rated game, so why do you want to eliminate that when practicing?

I only play correspondance games so time isn't really an issue for me in my games like it would be OTB, I'm not saying to get rid of the current system I'm just saying it would be nice to have the option to choose between 2 different settings.

Nino_98

@GodsPawn2016 You misunderstood me, I don't mean that there shouldn't be a punishment for giving an incorrect solution, I mean there shouldn't be a punishment for using your time to solve a puzzle.

ChessOfPlayer

In short, V3 does not punish you for slow solving but rewards you for being fast.

Simple as that.  It is the best way for it in my opinion.

GodsPawn2016
Nino_98 wrote:

@GodsPawn2016 You misunderstood me, I don't mean that there shouldn't be a punishment for giving an incorrect solution, I mean there shouldn't be a punishment for using your time to solve a puzzle.

Its the same as OTB play.  the longer you take, the more time you use, the more risk of time trouble you run into.  If a tactics takes you 5 seconds to solve, and takes me 10 minutes.  You should get more points for it, while i get fewer.  

The bottom line is DONT get caught up in an online tactics rating.  The big picture is increasing your pattern recognition.  

GodsPawn2016
Gunina87 wrote:

I think it would be nice if they gave you the option to do tactics trainer without a time limit affecting your score as well as what they have at the minute, you know the way they do it on chesstempo with 2 different tactic trainer settings. Some times if your not that quick at calculating on chess.coms tactics trainer you can get 9 out of 10 tactics right and your rating doesn't change because you get 1 point for the 9 you got right  and -9 for the one you got wrong, its a bit frustrating i find.

You can do "Unrated" that doesnt have a timer.

misterbasic
Tactics trainer rating is a joke. Mines over >2400 on TT but I'm nowhere near that strength in actual games.
1hey

misterbasic wrote:

Tactics trainer rating is a joke. Mines over >2400 on TT but I'm nowhere near that strength in actual games.

I am coming to you soon,baby

NimzoPatzer

ChessTempo is the answer to you then.

stanhope13

Try www.chesstempo.com

stanhope13

I was always getting puzzles correct, but still lost points because of the time.

NightKingx

What do you want those rating points for? You can't exchange them for anything. Just do the tactics, enjoy the learning process, become a better player and sharpen your tactical eye. Eventually you will see how you do the tactics faster and you won't get punished ;=)