That is not a bug ... unfortunately ...
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tmodel66 wrote:
I have an opponent, in a 3 day time/move time limit tourney, who started the tournament with 2.5 months of vacation time available. Finding himself in a losing position with 12 minutes on his clock, he went on vacation for 5 weeks. Then, he made one move and has gone on vacation for another three weeks.
All games in this round have been resolved, except his, and he will probably lose both games. Even if he won both games, it would not change the results. I will be the only player advancing once these games are resolved.
Technically speaking, he is playing within the rules, but he has delibirately held up the entire tournament for eight weeks to date. Moreover, he will continue to play one move every three days once he is "forced" to move (after he has used his remaining two weeks of vacation time).
This is either a call for changing the vacation rules or an admonition to NEVER play in an online tournament where vacation is allowed.
I know most people legitimately use the vacation feature, but this kind of lame play ruins the experience for everyone.
You're looking at this all wrong. You should be grateful that he found a spare moment during his eight-week vacation to advance your game.
schachfan1 wrote:
Out of my current 94 games, my turn is in 59 games. I tried to start my vacation now. The system "has told me" -
Oops?! We noticed the following errors in your form: To prevent abuse, you can only leave on vacation when it is NOT your move in any game
To prevent abuse, you can only leave on vacation when it is NOT your move in any game. To prevent abuse, you can only leave on vacation when it is NOT your move in any gam To prevent abuse, you can only leave oacaton when it is NOT your move in any game. To prevent abuse, you can only leave on vacation when it is Nur move in any game.This is a very poorly thought out rule. If you have enough games, and active enough oppponents it can be next to impossible to enact your vacation mode.
By contrast, premium members have no such restriction. A lot has been said about whether auto-vacation is fair (it is, by the way), but this rule is the true inequity that exists.
I've always favoured a different approach -- for every game in which it was your move when you last came off vacation, you must have advanced the game at least one move before you can go back on vacation. This should apply to all members, premium or otherwise.
Or if considering that "just a couple of games" might be considered as "non abuse", I might be allowed to take a vacation when I have only some 3-5 games where it is my turn to move ... But what kind of "abuse" is that? A certain number of vacation days in a year either is given (if the site has really nothing against the fact that people can have some vacation during a year) or is not given (if the site does not want that people can have some vacation during a year) - what is all that about "abuse"? Just a question ...
It is abused and so is this topic
You know, for about two years, since I came to the Chess.com, I several time came across sayings like "vacation abuse", not in this topic. I would feel ashamed to say that any of my opponents "abuse their vacation". And my question has always been - in what way can vacation be abused at all? Can anyone answer?
I found in the settings that I can have 21 days (if I am not mistaken ... or it was 30 days, and I checked the number of days after I had used some days of vacation available) of vacation a year. But if some people can buy two, three or more months of "vacation period" in one year - if a person who has three months vacation time available for one year - no matter when and no matter how long and how many times such pesron would take vacation - it will probably always seem to his/her opponents that this person "abuses vacation"
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Jan 5, 2015
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kaynight wrote:
You cannot abuse vacation, I think the OP is just miffed because his opponent is stalling for time, and not allowing him a win under his conditions.
I am the OP, and am surprised to find this thread still alive after 15 months...maybe you all are waiting on vacationing opponents to move?
The only fix is to play in "no vacation" tournaments.
As the quoted person says, I was guilty of thinking it unreasonable that a person who had promptly moved throughout the tournament only went into stall mode when his position fell apart.
And, to people who play hundreds of games simultaneously and argue the point that vacation time is a right, do you understand the cascading effect of stalling hundreds (maybe thousands) of tournaments by going on vacation?
To me, life is too short to wait for a year to resolve a game, particularly in games that one side has lost, but uses vacation time only because they are too lame to resign.
On the other hand, if that is your thing, go for it. Or maybe I should say: WAIT for it...
Jan 5, 2015
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kaynight wrote:
Have you been on vacation the past few months?
Yes, 
but I didn't leave any opponents hanging around, checking daily to see if I had moved, in hopes that they would forfeit.
More abuse of vacation. What a worthless contrivance. I will never play another tournament that allows vacations. My idiot opponent has abused the system on multiple games and has dragged our two games on for over three months.Now he is doing it again and with 1 hour left hto move he has once again gone on vacation. There should be a way to kick abusers out! Or better yet...get rid of vacation!!!
It looks like the system of vacations is not well-developed indeed. Many players say the same about vacation abusing which is "allowed by the rules" on this site, the system of vacations needs some changes/improvements here. In some other aspects this chess site is good indeed, compared with other chess sites
Henrymy wrote:
It's really great, this fellow signs up and plays Board 1... (!) then immediately goes into vacation mode; does he or she not know that not a single move has been made??? why sign up if you can't play? lol,
I have experienced similar frustrating scenarios. But I would call it "tournament abuse" rather than "vacation abuse" as the OP might.
This could be easily remedied by the tournament organizer stating in advance that vacation is limited or not allowed.
Jun 15, 2015
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An obvious thing in tournaments is to let them progress when the winners in a group are settled and leave the dead games behind. This issue continues to come up, but this would solve a lot of tournament hold-up; not just vacation but obviously people at the arse end of a group with no hope of progressing just don't bother with the dead games much. So just let the tournament carry on. Not a complicated coding tweak by any means.
Jun 19, 2015
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#58
I agree with this last suggestion. No surprise that it is the people who have fallen out of contention who have the lest interest in staying on top of their game(s).
Live chess is the best, results on the same day do not need to wait.
Out of my current 94 games, my turn is in 59 games. I tried to start my vacation now. The system "has told me" -
Oops?! We noticed the following errors in your form: To prevent abuse, you can only leave on vacation when it is NOT your move in any game