WCC location is unfair to Caruana

USArmyParatrooper
Heather_Stephens wrote:

Lighten up guys.

The dude who started this discussion is a well-known troll - one of his clubs is Troll U ! 😁 Don't take him too seriously.

Here, in London, it's a beautiful day.

Two quick questions, because I’m headed there November for my birthday to watch the match. 

 

 How is London in November? And are there really werewolves? 

ilovesmetuna
london in november is gonna be cold, bahamas would have been better. now just because it's a long time since someone saw a soho werewolf, it doesn't mean they are not there, it's not so much that anyone ever finds them, it's .... they will find you.
HSCCNickS
TheTacticianMagician wrote:
HSCCNickS wrote:
TheTacticianMagician wrote:
HSCCNickS wrote:
yureesystem wrote:

Caruana is going to win, regardless of the location; this is the first time Carlsen is playing high caliber player and Carlsen falter under pressure. Caruana is good enough to hold the one point advantage in 12 games match and Carlsen will never catch up.

You obviously know nothing of carlsens achievements.

Carlsen is no longer as dominant as he once was, while he's still the favorite, I wouldn't say Caruana is a huge underdog. Also Caruana also has some fairly notable achieve achievements himself.

That’s fair. Carlsen has been coming down from his prime, Caruana is either in or approaching it. Caruana is or will become as noteable as Carlsen. That’s my option at least.

I can agree with that.

Yermo made an interesting comment in the Grenke recap, that back when Carlsen was winning every tournament and still losing rating points because of how high his rating was it was mostly older players at the top like Kramnik, Anand, Gelfand, Topalov etc. but now that the younger players are reaching the top, he's not doing as well (except against players like Nakamura and Mamedyarov) and that while he's still the best player, he's not scoring as well as he did against the older players. Just an observation I thought was interesting.

Honestly, Caruana, like Carlsen kind of popped out of nowhere. I think that chess is like graffiti. The new generation will always be better than the old one. But, some day that will top out and we will see a death and a rebirth of chess, or a ton of rule changes. I think Carlsen has had his time .

D2-D2
If Carson is favored, if/when Caruana wins the WCC, Caruana will be favored, if Carson bribed them then Caruana can too! Before we know it there will be civil chess wars do the corruption!

As others have pointed out, the organizer should announce what country is will be held in years in advance like the Olympic Games
D2-D2
IF again! IF!
BobbyPhisher960
yureesystem wrote:

Caruana is going to win, regardless of the location; this is the first time Carlsen is playing high caliber player and Carlsen falter under pressure. Caruana is good enough to hold the one point advantage in 12 games match and Carlsen will never catch up.

Carlsen is a better player, still.

AnthonyAtanasov

booooo Fabiano


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madratter7

Has Caruana complained? Why stir up the pot? They are both used to traveling and playing internationally. And while distance could conceivable favor Carlsen, as others pointed out, language favors Caruana. And who knows which player favors the British food? There are many factors here, and I'm not prepared to say one way or the other who is favored by the location.

robbie_1969

lol Londoners have their own language, its based on English.  Mango has his own chef.  He eats porridge and orange juice for breakfast.  You think what they had for breakfast is going to have any discernible effect on what happens at the board.  Wow.  Lets hope their seconds eat the same thing.

KoustavChatterjee1

Funny to see people worked out over an obvious troll post.

robbie_1969
KoustavChatterjee1 wrote:

Funny to see people worked out over an obvious troll post.

Obvious yes, but apparently not obvious enough! wink.png

fischerrook

I'm sure Fabiano is pleased to a) be in the match b) have a nice venue to have the championship c) be hosted by a lovely city like London on the world stage. If it favors Magnus slightly, so be it. Travel is apart of the game for these guys and they are used to moving around. Magnus is getting old, let him have his rest. Personally, I look forward to the advantage going the other direction if Caruana wins. I would love to see more high profile tournaments held in America. I'm not sure if Caruana will start a Bobby Fischer-type chess boom, but I think it will definitely move the needle a little. 

ScootaChess
KoustavChatterjee1 wrote:

Funny to see people worked out over an obvious troll post.

See this is why people troll. Because it's hilarious.

SonOfThunder2

#TeamCarlsen

Icecream4crow

Isn't Caruana is a huge underdog at 38th on the top 50 list?

I wonder what the betting odds are now that its legal in the US?

macer75
Skordato wrote:

Isn't Caruana is a huge underdog at 38th on the top 50 list?

I wonder what the betting odds are now that its legal in the US?

I'm not sure, but my advice would be to always bet as much as you can on the underdog. Think of all of the money you could win!

ThePiggle
pfren wrote:

Caruana lives in Lugano, Switzerland, which is closer to London than Oslo.

Caruana lived lived there from 2010 to 2014, when he moved to St. Louis.

macer75
Shroplad57 wrote:

Typical Americans blaming Carlsen for using his influence for an unfair venue, I would point out that Fide had chosen the venue for the Title Defence before the candidates had even been played, also the American opinion that Carlsen will lose because he is now playing his first decent quality rated challenger is utter rubbish, sorry but you mean to say that Visy Anand was not a worthy opponent he was 5 times champion of the world, also his last challenger was by a whisker very close to challenging again, to have the opinion that Carlsen is not a world class champion is ridiculous Nobody can touch him at quick play if there is a decider so on that Basis my vote is CARLSEN WILL WIN AGAIN!!!!!!

Good point, British guy who can't write a coherent sentence in English.

ed1975

I think Carlsen will win handily.