What is your favorite opening after e4 e5?

Nicholas166

What is your favorite opening after e4 e5?

ThrillerFan

Petroff and give me Black!

Jacob166

The italian

kindaspongy

The November 2017 issue of Chess lists the top twenty openings compiled from a list of 2402 September games where both players were rated over 2400 Elo. One can not take position on this list too seriously because it is greatly influenced by how the openings are grouped. For example, all the Retis are grouped together, while English is separated into 1...c5, 1...e5, etc. Nevertheless, for what it is worth, some of the list entries are: 126 Retis, 100 King's Indians, 97 Nimzo-Indians, 84 Caro-Kanns, 76 declined Queen's Gambits, 73 Slavs, 63 Catalans, 61 Najdorf Sicilians, 58 1...c5 Englishes, 55 Berlin Lopezes, 55 Queen's Indians, 49 Guioco Pianos, 48 1...e5 Englishes, 45 Kan Sicilians, 43 1...Nf6 Englishes, and 42 Taimanov Sicilians.

Xbiker

Rui Lopez

h4_explosive

Ruy Lopez Archangelsk

oyyzter

kindaspongy wrote:

The November 2017 issue of Chess lists the top twenty openings compiled from a list of 2402 September games where both players were rated over 2400 Elo. One can not take position on this list too seriously because it is greatly influenced by how the openings are grouped. For example, all the Retis are grouped together, while English is separated into 1...c5, 1...e5, etc. Nevertheless, for what it is worth, some of the list entries are: 126 Retis, 100 King's Indians, 97 Nimzo-Indians, 84 Caro-Kanns, 76 declined Queen's Gambits, 73 Slavs, 63 Catalans, 61 Najdorf Sicilians, 58 1...c5 Englishes, 55 Berlin Lopezes, 55 Queen's Indians, 49 Guioco Pianos, 48 1...e5 Englishes, 45 Kan Sicilians, 43 1...Nf6 Englishes, and 42 Taimanov Sicilians.

Oh god. There's another one!

Fromper

When I was a beginner, I was told to play the Giuoco Piano from both sides, as it would help to learn open games. So I did. 18 years later, I still play it from the white side.

I've tried other openings over the years, including switching to 1. d4 and 1. f4, but I keep coming back to 1. e4. And when open games come up, I shoot for the Italian. I think I actually prefer when my opponents respond with the Two Knights Defense instead of Giuoco Piano, but I play both happily.

As black, I switched to the French as my main response to 1. e4, though I still occasionally answer with e5, and usually head for the Two Knights instead of the Giuoco.

Jacob166
Fromper wrote:

When I was a beginner, I was told to play the Giuoco Piano from both sides, as it would help to learn open games. So I did. 18 years later, I still play it from the white side.

I've tried other openings over the years, including switching to 1. d4 and 1. f4, but I keep coming back to 1. e4. And when open games come up, I shoot for the Italian. I think I actually prefer when my opponents respond with the Two Knights Defense instead of Giuoco Piano, but I play both happily.

As black, I switched to the French as my main response to 1. e4, though I still occasionally answer with e5, and usually head for the Two Knights instead of the Giuoco.

Omg# nerd

Nicholas166

I play the Italian

zinkelburger

You have to love the King's Gambit after e4, e5. 

IrishChessWizard

I'm probably alone on this one... but as White I like the Vienna Game 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 and as Black I like the Latvian Gambit 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5. That's a big contrast, I know, from slow positional stuff on one-hand to wild tactics on the other! I encourage you to try them if you haven't. They're fairly rare and both have some very interesting lines.

robbie_1969

I love this game in the Spanish, Queenside castling by white.

 

robbie_1969

Magnus by the way sometimes plays the bishops opening 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 and d3.  Both games I seen he got defeated though.

Fromper
IrishChessWizard wrote:

I'm probably alone on this one... but as White I like the Vienna Game 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 and as Black I like the Latvian Gambit 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5. That's a big contrast, I know, from slow positional stuff on one-hand to wild tactics on the other! I encourage you to try them if you haven't. They're fairly rare and both have some very interesting lines.

I've toyed with both in the past. I keep coming back to the Italian as white, because I already know it, so it's comfortable to play.

And I gave up on most gambits, including the Latvian, because they require too much study. When you start out down material, you have to REALLY know what you're doing to prove compensation. I've mostly switched to less sharp openings where I can just make it up as I go, so I focus my study time on tactics, endgames, and complete master games, rather than openings. I still look things up occasionally in the openings I play, but I don't spend hours and hours on opening books and videos like I used to.

IrishChessWizard
Fromper wrote:
IrishChessWizard wrote:

I'm probably alone on this one... but as White I like the Vienna Game 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 and as Black I like the Latvian Gambit 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5. That's a big contrast, I know, from slow positional stuff on one-hand to wild tactics on the other! I encourage you to try them if you haven't. They're fairly rare and both have some very interesting lines.

I've toyed with both in the past. I keep coming back to the Italian as white, because I already know it, so it's comfortable to play.

And I gave up on most gambits, including the Latvian, because they require too much study. When you start out down material, you have to REALLY know what you're doing to prove compensation. I've mostly switched to less sharp openings where I can just make it up as I go, so I focus my study time on tactics, endgames, and complete master games, rather than openings. I still look things up occasionally in the openings I play, but I don't spend hours and hours on opening books and videos like I used to.

That sounds like a wise way to spend your time with chess. It's easy to fall into the game of only studying openings, playing the opening well (or being frustrated that you didn't play it well), and then sort of haphazardly playing the rest of game using the initiative as the only basis for evaluation. There's a lot more to chess than that. 

By the way, it took me a while to get the gist of playing the Latvian, but I eventually got the hang of it from playing blitz and post-mortems using a couple of books; Tony Kosten's book (old, I know) and another one by Lein and Pickard.

On the Vienna, there's not that much theory. One can play it using general principles, say, from Nimzowitsch's early chapters. That's one reason why I like it. The moves come fairly naturally. The Latvian is a different kettle of fish, however! 

Jacob166
  • You guys write such big messages
robbie_1969

three paragraphs is big? what do you consider manageable?

ChessGm101

Evans gambit

FrogCDE

Vienna gambit.