Didn't you mean quote too much, and write too much?
You might be guilty of the former.
Even if Chess were solved,
approx 4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 possible permutations in a middle game? - Then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to memorise the correct sequence for each of the moves so what does it matter??
Chess will always be chess..
It is not going to be completely solved as there are two many possible moves.
However almost all players master and above know the correct result with best play for both sides is a draw.
Checkers has been completely solved and there are probably data bases with all possible moves or all relevant moves.
Checkers is , of course, a draw with best play on both sides.
Heh, I think you're paraphrasing. "I have had many people tell me they don't like to talk to me because, I think too much"
Help me out here, walk me though a conversation (without paraphrasing) that leads to the statement "I don't enjoy talking to you because you think to much"
To quote one verbatim would be a bit of a task at the moment but, if the conversation involves anything having to do "one thing" that has multiple facets, that each could require a 10 minute or so conversation to get them up to speed, so that they even understand when I try to make a simple statement, that otherwise makes no sense to them or they refuse to give any merit to because, I can't either reach into my pocket for something or use three words to prove it.
My wife wonders why I don't enjoy talking to her about other people's affairs or how work went. It isn't that I don't care, but normally I have my mind on so many other things, that are far more involved that, she can't stand that can normally finish her sentences or know what all she will tell me, after the first 5 words.
Ocassionally I will miss something that was a bit of a plot twist and when I do she doesn't let me forget it. She hates it that I tell her she could have told me what she was surprising me with more directly and that we then could have engaged in a conversation about it, but I guess she would rather try to decide each step for my brain or atleast it seems that way. She gets angry that I like to spend so much time here enjoying my nerdfest, I particularly think she is affraid I will find a female friend I enjoy talking to. I have noticed her tendency to get jealous even if I talk to a woman who lives half way around the world. I have a joke for that but, its too "long" for this post...
You likely misheard. I think folks don't like talking to you, not because you think too much; rather, because you talk too much.
You missed the part where I stated directly and indirectly that some people only want to talk about nothing, but I prefer to make my endeavors worthwhile... You obviously like to try to belittle people who did nothing to you. I guess you think you are smarter than others and like to point out their short comings as you see them. Its a shame yourself esteem is so bad. I am going to make it worse by telling you that you aren't very good at belittling someone either, I guess you aren't smart enough...I guess its back to the drawing board...
Having something to talk about isn't the same thing as having something to say.
Why didn't you apply that logic earlier, to your ideas. This thread would have been better.
Didn't you mean quote too much, and write too much?
You might be guilty of the former.
My wife thinks so, I guess she would rather I talk too much about nothing...go figure...
Chess will never be solved. There are more combinations of moves before move 40 than atoms in the universe.
As far is chess being solved q. : If every atom in known universe was a comp. that calculates 1 million positions per sec. from the beginning of the time till today they would not pass the move 30 so...
The problem with having a computer 'solve' this problem is that the algorithm they run by isn't always perfect. It's proven that computers sometimes miss subtle nuances in the position that only human behaviour can recognize.
Secondly, people wouldn't be able to remember the trillions upon trillions of combinations during a real game. (Have you ever memorised all opening moves/variations?) - No.
It would be interesting to see how far it goes, but I highly doubt it will ever happen.
What will be the impact of chess being solved?
But...
The Super-Computer Deep Thought says the Answer is...
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
And Another Thing...
Don't forget your towel.
People will play dubious moves because the opponent won't waste time memorizing the refute.
Maybe intuitively its why I already do on some level. I don't think chess is solved, but certain opening/defense combintions are pretty well explored already.
If that really is John Nunn, he needs to do something about that hair.
Great chess writer and GM, in any case.
Chess is far too complex to be solved anytime in the next million years.
There are just too many possibilities.
However if you just want to know how a perfect game would come out--Many have played a 100% perfect game....Why..because it is quite obvious that with perfect play--chess is a draw. It takes a mistake to lose a game.
Thus a lot of very short games could be perfect at least for one side.
I'm not sure that it's quite obvious, but I do think it's quite probable.
A blowout in which one side played perfectly isn't a perfect game -- it's a game in which one side has perfect play. Fools mate is one obvious example that's far from perfect.
Checkers (well, that's what Grandma called it - its also known as English Draughts) was solved in 2007, and the verdict was that perfect play would result in a draw.
I believe that the same will be said of chess, in which case there is still every reason to continue playing because each side won't content themselves to the "best" move available. Even in high-level play, someone will deviate from the accepted norm to play something different. Club players still play their favorite pet lines long after they have been declared unsound by GMs. I remember playing against Grob's in a USCF tournament and I still love the Ponziani even though a number of strong players on here have condemned it.
By the way - I recently received my copy of the new definitive edition on on the Ponziani and will contend that it is completely playable, although I wouldn't venture it against a titled player.
Heh, I think you're paraphrasing. "I have had many people tell me they don't like to talk to me because, I think too much"
Help me out here, walk me though a conversation (without paraphrasing) that leads to the statement "I don't enjoy talking to you because you think to much"
To quote one verbatim would be a bit of a task at the moment but, if the conversation involves anything having to do "one thing" that has multiple facets, that each could require a 10 minute or so conversation to get them up to speed, so that they even understand when I try to make a simple statement, that otherwise makes no sense to them or they refuse to give any merit to because, I can't either reach into my pocket for something or use three words to prove it.
My wife wonders why I don't enjoy talking to her about other people's affairs or how work went. It isn't that I don't care, but normally I have my mind on so many other things, that are far more involved that, she can't stand that can normally finish her sentences or know what all she will tell me, after the first 5 words.
Ocassionally I will miss something that was a bit of a plot twist and when I do she doesn't let me forget it. She hates it that I tell her she could have told me what she was surprising me with more directly and that we then could have engaged in a conversation about it, but I guess she would rather try to decide each step for my brain or atleast it seems that way. She gets angry that I like to spend so much time here enjoying my nerdfest, I particularly think she is affraid I will find a female friend I enjoy talking to. I have noticed her tendency to get jealous even if I talk to a woman who lives half way around the world. I have a joke for that but, its too "long" for this post...
You likely misheard. I think folks don't like talking to you, not because you think too much; rather, because you talk too much.