Which is generally stronger? a queen or two rooks?

Napoleon-Blownapart

and how well you play with a queen or 2 rooks, and how well you play the position, and how much time you have left, and how strong your opponent is, and if you are bursting to go to the toilet, and if you are missing your favourite sitcom to play the game ......

SmyslovFan
Napoleon-Blownapart wrote:

fischer preferred queen over 2 rooks, but i always found the 2 rooks easily smashed the queen in most positions.

Fischer preferred the Q over two rooks when there were a bunch of other pieces on the board and the opposing side didn't have time to coordinate his pieces.Β 

Fischer was a classicist. He rated a Q to be worth about 9 pawns and 2 rooks to be worth ten pawns. But he was a concrete analyst who preferred the Q+minor pieces when they were well coordinated.

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drmrboss
SmyslovFan wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
aarongull wrote:

need to know what else is on the board.

You can put additional pieces on the board!! But it will take massive computing power to force calculate all those possible positions! My estimated guess is,

Β If you use current common desktop 4 cores pc, it will take

100+ years to calculate 8 men table-base.

10000+ years to calculate 9 men table-base

Or, you could simply go through a database and see the average scores of GMs for a given configuration.Β 

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It is not that easy, there are billions of chess games. How many same games will you take for more accuracy?Β  1000,Β  or 1,000,000 size.

GM database results include much about players performance, rather than the real nature of position.

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Computer games are more accurate but it wont be that much different from statistics of 7 men TB.

SmyslovFan
drmrboss wrote:

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It is not that easy, there are billions of chess games. How many same games will you take for more accuracy?Β  1000,Β  or 1,000,000 size.

GM database results include much about players performance, rather than the real nature of position.

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Computer games are more accurate but it wont be that much different from statistics of 7 men TB.

It’s true. You can make things as complicated as you want.

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The question asked, in general...

Generally, the two rooks are stronger. There are plenty of exceptions.

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CRYYSIS
awesomeomgaming wrote:

Yeah, I agree completely you can make things as complicated as you want.Β 

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