who do you think was the best chess player of all time?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #81

    Scottrf

    Why is having worse preparation an achievement?

    It may mean you're more talented, but that's not really the discussion.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #82

    fabelhaft

    Savage wrote:
    fabelhaft wrote:

    What Fischer did in 1972 wasn't unprecedented in itself.

    That's funny, because I tried googling the other guy who beat the Soviets singlehandedly and couldn't find him.

    If Fischer's beating Spassky in 1972 is what makes Fischer the greatest player ever by default it's obvious that for example Lasker or Kasparov never could be as great as Fischer regardless how many decades they played or what results they scored.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #83

    titust

    I think Morphy,Fisher,Capablanca, and Kasparov

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #85

    Scottrf

    Is Fischer the Michael Jordan?

    It's a poor analogy, but the hype seems more applicable to Fischer.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #87

    DrFrank124c

    Bobby Fischer is the greatest chess player who ever was or ever will be! He stood up to the Soviet Machine and beat them single handedly even though the Soviets trained their players in a school under the tutelage of world champions Bobby Fischer beat them. Then Bobby Fischer took on the American Machine and showed the world US government, Japan and Israel are modern day Nazis.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #89

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    aww-rats wrote:
    JMB2010 wrote:
    aww-rats wrote:

     Kasparov barely beat Karpov. Fischer rolled his way to the top, his margin of victories in 1970-72 will never be matched.

    Did Fischer play Karpov? No.

    Did Karpov play the people Fischer did while they were in their prime? Mostly no. Chess

     


    at the top slipped a lot after the generation Fischer played grew older. Sorry but Karpov and Kasparov aren't close to even top 5 all time.

    In Fischer's defense I will note that Karpov tried the Fischer Defense against Spassky and still lost:

     

     
    Though I was disappointed with how crushing black was winning through much of the game it was the Fischer Defense after all.   
  • 3 years ago · Quote · #91

    fabelhaft

    aww-rats wrote:

    Fischer played a better class of players than Kasparov did.

    Spassky was stronger than Karpov? Kasparov played the strongest opposition available for twenty years after winning the title. He played 144 match games just against Karpov. Also the tournaments Kasparov won were vastly stronger than the events Fischer played.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #92

    Intrinsicbarbaro

    Karpov won the most tournaments, enough said. We all know the world championship is a joke and even early grandmaster acknowledged this.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #93

    Hadez960

    Bobby would probably be rolling in his grave if the day he was left out of the argument ever comes.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #94

    abhichess98

    Kaparov, Kasparov, Kasparov! He be THE BEST! (Y)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #95

    clms_chess

    Intrinsicbarbaro wrote:

    Karpov won the most tournaments, enough said. We all know the world championship is a joke and even early grandmaster acknowledged this.

    "We"?? You have your reasons for stating that... but ...no. Fischer single handedly bringing down the Soviet Chess Machine..... winning the World Championship... was not a "joke" (meaning >> its worthless, it means nothing, etc etc).

    If the WCC is a joke... then ANY WC.. in anything... is a joke.

    (I wonder how Usain Bolt would take that statement?)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #96

    hakim2005

    kasparov

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #97

    Intrinsicbarbaro

    Different circumstances. I think a tennis-like approach would be better for chess. Simply have a number 1 each year.

    clms_chess wrote:

    Intrinsicbarbaro wrote:

    Karpov won the most tournaments, enough said. We all know the world championship is a joke and even early grandmaster acknowledged this.

    "We"?? You have your reasons for stating that... but ...no. Fischer single handedly bringing down the Soviet Chess Machine..... winning the World Championship... was not a "joke" (meaning >> its worthless, it means nothing, etc etc).

    If the WCC is a joke... then ANY WC.. in anything... is a joke.

    (I wonder how Usain Bolt would take that statement?)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #98

    clms_chess

    Intrinsicbarbaro wrote:

    Different circumstances. I think a tennis-like approach would be better for chess. Simply have a number 1 each year.

    clms_chess wrote:

    Intrinsicbarbaro wrote:

     

    Karpov won the most tournaments, enough said. We all know the world championship is a joke and even early grandmaster acknowledged this.

     

     

    "We"?? You have your reasons for stating that... but ...no. Fischer single handedly bringing down the Soviet Chess Machine..... winning the World Championship... was not a "joke" (meaning >> its worthless, it means nothing, etc etc).

    If the WCC is a joke... then ANY WC.. in anything... is a joke.

    (I wonder how Usain Bolt would take that statement?)

    Maybe you're right..maybe not... still, the world championship is not a "joke".

    I actually like the format that chess has to determine WC... its different/unique... sets it a part from other "sports".

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #99

    gabetkach

    Easily Milhail Tal or Nimsowitsch. Tal was one of the greatest attackers in history, and of course Nimsowitsch revolutionized the way we look at positional chess with this book "My System" 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #100

    titust

    It is very hard to say. There is Kasparov, Fisher, Tal, Carlsen, Lasker, Karpov, Nimsowitsch, and Caplablanca. But, I will vote for Kasparov


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