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Who else agrees that the french exchange variation leads to such symmetrical drawish positions?

  • #21
    LeonSKennedy992 wrote:

    Of course, I try to make the position as asymmetrical as possible, but still.....very boring.

     

    This is why I changed defenses.  I went from the french defense which I used to love...to the scandinavian gambit, icelandic gambit, or the bronstein variation of the main line. 

    The are drawish because you have no skill. 

  • #22

    Even Kasparov has used the Exchange Variation to win.

  • #23
    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Even Kasparov has used the Exchange Variation to win.

    Yeah, but you wouldn't recommend it to regular club players right?

    Last time I said the exchange is fine we disagreed for many posts on this. Seems you don't mind the exchange so much now (or am I wrong?)

  • #24

    By the way I play 3.Nc3 now tongue.png

  • #25
    LeonSKennedy992 wrote:

    Of course, I try to make the position as asymmetrical as possible, but still.....very boring.

     

    This is why I changed defenses.  I went from the french defense which I used to love...to the scandinavian gambit, icelandic gambit, or the bronstein variation of the main line. 

    You can still castle queenside. Besides, equality with Black on move 3 isn't the worst thing in the world.

  • #26
    poodle_noodle wrote:
    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Even Kasparov has used the Exchange Variation to win.

    Yeah, but you wouldn't recommend it to regular club players right?

    Last time I said the exchange is fine we disagreed for many posts on this. Seems you don't mind the exchange so much now (or am I wrong?)

    I have no idea what your previous handle was. I don't remember disagreeing with anyone with your name about the French Exchange. 

    I don't believe the French exchange is White's best option, but it's not drawish. As Black, I generally do extremely well when White plays the exchange with the intent of drawing. Lower rated players should not play the French Exchange in an effort to get a draw against a higher rated opponent. Heck, even Mikhail Gurevich failed to draw against Short as White in the Exchange in one of the most important games of his life.

    But, if White is playing to win, it's a dangerous opening. I've believed that for decades, and I doubt I ever said anything to contradict.

  • #27

    Here's something I wrote in another forum on this site in 2015. I still agree with it:

    #36

    John Watson, one of the most avid advocates of the Black side of the French, has pointed out that when you trade off one set of pawns, there are still plenty of pieces for both sides to use in a win.

    When I face the French Exchange, I look at my opponents rating. If that person is rated U2000, I expect that person to play passively and get into a bad position. I haven't lost a single rated game as Black in the French Exchange to anyone rated U2100.

    When my opponent is rated +2200 and he plays the French Exchange as White, I know that I'm in for a very long, difficult fight. They play it to win.  

  • #28
    Here's an interesting game from 2012 where Grischuk plays Black in an exchange variation and wins in 25 moves.  And Jakovenko is 2741 at that time.
     
     

     

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