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Alex_Williams1

Who will win the world championship? Why?

Alex_Williams1

Not too many are interested to make a prediction. Wink

Alex_Williams1

Well, first game drew.

ElKitch

when is the next game on?

theriverman

AnandInnocent

Alex_Williams1
joeydvivre wrote:

  Does anybody think that Gelfand will be one of the top 3 chess players in the world for years?  

   

Gelfand is presently world no: 20. Right?

Alex_Williams1
ChristianSoldier007 wrote:

On the official rating list yes, on the live rating list Bologan passed him along with 8 other super GMs

Sorry for my ignorance. But, who is Bologan?

Alex_Williams1

Ok. Thanks. But, what is the significance of the 'live rating list"?

Alex_Williams1
dekaleaas wrote:

when is the next game on?

Schedule for World Chess Championship Match

DayDateMatch eventTime
Day 1 10 May Opening ceremony 19.00/20.00
Day 2 11 May Game  1 15.00
Commentators: Nigel Short, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 3 12 May Game  2 15.00
Commentators: Nigel Short, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 4 13 May Rest day  
Day 5 14 May Game  3 15.00
Commentators: Jan Timman, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 6 15 May Game  4 15.00
Commentators: Jan Timman, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 7 16 May Rest day  
Day 8 17 May Game  5 15.00
Commentators: Joel Lautier, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 9 18 May Game  6 15.00
Commentators: Peter Svidler, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 10 19 May Rest day  
Day 11 20 May Game  7 15.00
Commentators: Peter Leko, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 12 21 May Game  8 15.00
Commentators: Peter Leko, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 13 22 May Rest day  
Day 14 23 May Game  9 15.00
Commentators: Peter Svidler, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 15 24 May Game  10 15.00
Commentators: Peter Svidler, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 16 25 May Rest day  
Day 17 26 May Game  11 15.00
Commentators: Vladimir Kramnik, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 18 27 May Rest day  
Day 19 28 May Game  12 15.00
Commentators: Peter Svidler, Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam
Day 20 29 May Rest day  
Day 21 30 May Tie break 12.00

 

The closing ceremony shall take place on the day after the FWCM has been decided or one day thereafter.

ralexanderking
sekhar1 wrote:

Ok. Thanks. But, what is the significance of the 'live rating list"?

FIDE updates their ranking list only 6 times a year - whereas the Live rankings (not endorsed by FIDE) update after each rated game a player completes.

Currently (according to 2700chess.com), after the draw in game 1, Anand is ranked #4 in the world and Gelfand is #21.

fabelhaft
joeydvivre wrote:

Not many world championship matches end in upsets.  Euwe beating Alehkine is the only big one 

Kramnik's beating Kasparov should maybe count as a big one as well, considering Kramnik's match results against weaker opponents and Kasparov's never losing another match against human opposition. Kasparov also won ten top tournaments in a row 1999-2002. But that would still be the only big upset in title matches the last 75 years, and even then the winner was ranked #2 in the world at the time of the match.

fabelhaft

One of the reasons that Euwe and Kramnik are the biggest surprises is that all other challengers the last 80 years had to win tough qualification events, so their winning the title could never be a big sensation after that. For example Spassky's winning in 1969 could never be a big surprise after he had beaten several top players in Candidates matches. Euwe and Kramnik lost the matches they played leading up to their being given a title match without participating in a qualification, so they were in a position where their winning would be a much bigger surprise than when challengers like Fischer or Kasparov won the title.

fabelhaft
ciljettu wrote:

Kasparov kind of expected Kramnik to beat him though, at least at some point in time. In fact, Kramnik was the only player who Kasparov thought might be good enough to dethrone him. So Kasparov was prophetic!

Yes, it's almost strange. Kasparov had said that Kramnik would be his successor, and then he gave him the title match instead of Candidates winner Shirov (who didn't eaxctly have good results against Kasparov):

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?yearcomp=exactly&year=&playercomp=either&pid=15940&player=&pid2=15809&player2=&movescomp=exactly&moves=&opening=&eco=&result=

fabelhaft

Recent Candidates winners never did well against Kasparov, just look at his scores at Chessgames.com against Shirov (winner of Candidates 1998), Leko (winner of Candidates 2002) and Gelfand (winner of Candidates 2011):

Classical games: Garry Kasparov beat Alexey Shirov 15 to 0, with 14 draws.

Classical games: Garry Kasparov beat Peter Leko 4 to 0, with 15 draws.

Classical games: Garry Kasparov beat Boris Gelfand 13 to 0, with 8 draws.


K2a2

fabelhaft, where can we get the head-head to stats. I', interested in Kasparov-Topalov and Kramnik's and Topalov's stats against those three

fabelhaft

Yes, the stats can be found at chessgames.com, and even if they can be a bit wrong sometimes they give a hunch about how strong Kasparov was, here are Kramnik's results against the three players Kasparov scored +32 -0 =37 against, it ends up with +31 -20 =111. Quite good if not for the comparison with Kasparov's scores:

Classical games: Vladimir Kramnik beat Alexey Shirov 15 to 11, with 27 draws.

Classical games: Vladimir Kramnik beat Peter Leko 10 to 6, with 52 draws.

Classical games: Vladimir Kramnik beat Boris Gelfand 6 to 3, with 32 draws.

darshandatta

Guys what opening do u expect in tomorrow's game? I am rooting for 1.d4 with The game being transposed into slav

fabelhaft

I'm guessing 1.d4 and a Queen's Indian.

fabelhaft

And I guess that Anand will win the match 6.5-4.5. First five-six draws and then an Anand win in game six or seven followed by Gelfand trying too hard to win a game towards the end of the match and losing again in game ten or eleven.

TheMonarchXI

I'd like to see slav tomorrow, or QGD
Anyone know if Anand plays that?