Who will win - Anand or Gelfand?

  • #21

    I'd like to see slav tomorrow, or QGD
    Anyone know if Anand plays that? 

  • #22

    There's a high probability that gelfand may opt for 1.e4 tomorrow. Although time'll only tell the truth

  • #23

    christiansoldier thnx 4 d recap of the game

  • #24

    Strange that Anand went for the non critical 8.Bb5+  against the Gruenfeld, he must have expected Gelfand to play it at some point. If thats really all he has in the exchange variation Gelfand can draw every game in that line.

  • #25
    Vease wrote:

    Strange that Anand went for the non critical 8.Bb5+  against the Gruenfeld, he must have expected Gelfand to play it at some point. If thats really all he has in the exchange variation Gelfand can draw every game in that line.

    What does a statement like this even mean?  We're not talking about your Uncle Ernie.  We're talking about the world champion.  He knows more about the Exchange Grunfeld than most people know about anything.

  • #26

    Just wondering how Magnus is not the one playing for the Championship?

  • #27
    ciljettu wrote:

    Well you actually have to turn up for the qualification phase in order to play in the final

    What's his reason for not showing up? He is ranked world #1 and is expected to be World Champion sometime. What is he waiting for?

  • #28

    Quite enjoyed today's match & Gelfand will be pleased. Like the ''underdog'' hence am rooting for him though do agree on a good day Anand is better-player. The slight question mark is Anand has not been playing his best for a while now & will he come good when it counts ?

    There should be little discussion of Carlsen here. This match is between Gelfand & Anand by right & Carlsen irrelevant in this title-fight. His time is still to come.

  • #29

    Not purely that. I do admire Gelfand's play & he is best in the world at certain systems/openings. Anand has more flair & greater repertoire.

    Also Anand has perfect temperament to be champion & could remain there for some time as did Kasparov.

  • #30

    Is the time control in this match the FIDE standard 40/90m+30s, G/30m+30s?

  • #31

    Clear-information here :

    http://moscow2012.fide.com/en/

  • #32

    Well todays game started such standard QG stuff by Anand yet by accepting doubled-pawns on c-file was very impressed by Gelfands lines.

  • #33
    ralexanderking wrote:
    sekhar1 wrote:

    Ok. Thanks. But, what is the significance of the 'live rating list"?

    FIDE updates their ranking list only 6 times a year - whereas the Live rankings (not endorsed by FIDE) update after each rated game a player completes.

    Currently (according to 2700chess.com), after the draw in game 1, Anand is ranked #4 in the world and Gelfand is #21.

    Thanks a lot, buddy.

  • #34

    Anand.

  • #35
    ciljettu wrote:

    He seems more preoccupied with fashion shoots and bringing up excuses for not playing in qualification phases. FIDE changed some rules and he threw a hissy fit. He clearly had a point... but he thought that point was more important than becoming world champion. Or maybe he only wants to play a WC match when he is slightly more experienced and stronger.

    He is the best, but he needs to show it.

    Is Magnus Carlsen the best? Why? Because he is world no: 1? If that is the case, why world no:2 or no:3 is not the challenger, but world no: 20?

    (I hope world no:2 & no: 3 turned up for the qualification matches Smile)

  • #36

    Anyone please tell me Anand's statistics against Carlsen and Gelfand. Thanks.

  • #37
    Hammerschlag wrote:
    What's his reason for not showing up? He is ranked world #1 and is expected to be World Champion sometime. What is he waiting for?

    This has been discussed to great detail before, but Carlsen did originally turn up for the qualification and won the first event. Among the players that refused to turn up were Topalov and Kramnik, who didn't want to qualify from the same starting point as Carlsen and Aronian.

    Then FIDE changed the rules so Topalov and Kramnik were given Candidates spots without qualifying, as they had demanded, and the longer final match was substituted with a knockout of the sort Khalifman and Kasimdzhanov had won in the past. The players that were most positive about this change were of course those that were given a spot they otherwise wouldn't have had. Aronian won all his Grand Prix tournaments, but the only reward he got was one spot of eight, together with players that had refused to play the qualification.

    So Carlsen withdrew, the knockout produced another sensation, and here we are.

  • #38
    ciljettu wrote:

    He seems more preoccupied with fashion shoots and bringing up excuses for not playing in qualification phases. FIDE changed some rules and he threw a hissy fit. He clearly had a point... but he thought that point was more important than becoming world champion. Or maybe he only wants to play a WC match when he is slightly more experienced and stronger.

    He is the best, but he needs to show it.

    Carlsen's main gripe was changing of the rules after the competition had started.  The FIDE events had lower prize funds than sponsored tournaments, so the players had given up some potential income to commit to the cycle.  Then they changed the rules, that was the last straw.

    Given the smaller WC purses since Kasparov couldn't get a rematch with Kramnik, Carlsen has a point:  FIDE needs him and Aronian more than they need FIDE, FIDE should at least respect them and treat them fairly.

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  • #40

    It would be a mistake to count Gelfand out.  He competed with the best in the world for many years, his career survived disruption in his emigration to Israel, and he stayed in the upper levels during a time there weren't so many 2650+ players to feed the ratings of the top players.

    He knows it is his last chance, so he's hungry.  Anand has a lopsided plus score against him, is higher rated, so may not prepare as hard as he did for Topalov and Kramnik.  Also, Vishy is a family man now, so some of the drive may have lost the edge.

    Anand of course deserves to be the favorite, but the universal disrepect Gelfand is getting could be Boris' greatest weapon.

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