why would that be an issue?
The fact that they just joined an jumped right to this thread it a bit sus, considering the fact that someone just got banned
I was not aware, but still, don't you think you are being paranoid considering that there are probably thousands of people joining an hour?
why would that be an issue?
The fact that they just joined an jumped right to this thread it a bit sus, considering the fact that someone just got banned
I was not aware, but still, don't you think you are being paranoid considering that there are probably thousands of people joining an hour?
yeah maybe a little
😂
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
I am sorry, but you seem to hold some slighty sexist beliefs, I am not sure if this is a product of your upbringing or society, however it is very regressive. Please reconsider your beliefs, based on real world interactions, I am sure you will see that the same principles apply to men and women.
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
I am sorry, but you seem to hold some slighty sexist beliefs, I am not sure if this is a product of your upbringing or society, however it is very regressive. Please reconsider your beliefs, based on real world interactions, I am sure you will see that the same principles apply to men and women.
how is any of this sexist lmao? it's just observable reality and it's a GOOD thing. Women are treated as humans should and that is really awesome. The issue is not the good treatment of women(which is a great thing) but the harsh treatment of men. Men should be treated like women too.
However that's a double edged sword, if men are not forced to excel or perish then we won't have geniuses anymore. It is also not completely a societal construct, some of it(infact a lot of it) is genetics. Men are just way more competitive when it comes to other men so men in general tend to be under tons of pressure to succeed if they want to be recognized. This is not true for women(which is how it should be, your career should not change how people treat you as a human)
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
I am sorry, but you seem to hold some slighty sexist beliefs, I am not sure if this is a product of your upbringing or society, however it is very regressive. Please reconsider your beliefs, based on real world interactions, I am sure you will see that the same principles apply to men and women.
Men and women are physically different. Their brains are physically different. Men and women evolved to complement each other’s roles, and the result has been the most successful species ever to exist on our planet. It is ludicrous to believe that we would be equal in all things, as we are obviously different. We should capitalize on each other’s strengths, and quit focusing on the weaknesses.
I believe that if enough women decided they were going to dominate Chess going forward, they would still come up short. Men are better at Chess. Women can smell things that will make men vomit. It’s a win win.
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
(I am school age so I don't have good examples but here goes)
Why is it that the boys playing chess in the chess club are cool smart kids, while the girls in the chess club either suck since they play it once a year or are nerdy idiots to have gotten this far?
That is what made me almost quit chess - only in quarantine did I feel like picking up this hobby again, since I had absolutely nothing else to do
The top women are invited to those tournaments to promote women playing chess since there are already so few
At least now that I am half-decent at chess I have earned some respect from the boys lolol
Understandable. What i said is true mostly for adults and doesn't apply to all ages
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
I am sorry, but you seem to hold some slighty sexist beliefs, I am not sure if this is a product of your upbringing or society, however it is very regressive. Please reconsider your beliefs, based on real world interactions, I am sure you will see that the same principles apply to men and women.
how is any of this sexist lmao? it's just observable reality and it's a GOOD thing. Women are treated as humans should and that is really awesome. The issue is not the good treatment of women(which is a great thing) but the harsh treatment of men. Men should be treated like women too.
However that's a double edged sword, if men are not forced to excel or perish then we won't have geniuses anymore. It is also not completely a societal construct, some of it(infact a lot of it) is genetics. Men are just way more competitive when it comes to other men so men in general tend to be under tons of pressure to succeed if they want to be recognized. This is not true for women(which is how it should be, your career should not change how people treat you as a human)
I agree with the idea that women and men should be treated as humans, however I have not experienced this "harsh treatment of men". I hope that everyone is treated equally, regardless of their gender.
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
(I am school age so I don't have good examples but here goes)
Why is it that the boys playing chess in the chess club are cool smart kids, while the girls in the chess club either suck since they play it once a year or are nerdy idiots to have gotten this far?
That is what made me almost quit chess - only in quarantine did I feel like picking up this hobby again, since I had absolutely nothing else to do
The top women are invited to those tournaments to promote women playing chess since there are already so few
At least now that I am half-decent at chess I have earned some respect from the boys lolol
One more thing i would say just to demonstrate my point, there are numerous measures in place to encourage females to join things they are under represented in. For example chess, they have their separate titles, their separate awards and all kinds of incentives.
However there are areas dominated by females too like health care assistants and public relations. However have u ever heard of any incentives or direct benefits given to men to join these areas? no? the reason is that if men are under represented then it's not an issue, if women are under represented then it is an issue. As i said, society is really soft on women which is a great thing but it is extremely, relentlessly hard on men.
That's why things which women dominate in are left alone but if men dominate a field it is seen as a big problem which needs to be addressed. It proves my point.
The conclusion is, men are simply expected to solve whatever hardships are thrown and they are forced to either excel or perish. That is the reason men tend to dominate the top levels of chess too simply because the pressure on them is way higher
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
I am sorry, but you seem to hold some slighty sexist beliefs, I am not sure if this is a product of your upbringing or society, however it is very regressive. Please reconsider your beliefs, based on real world interactions, I am sure you will see that the same principles apply to men and women.
Men and women are physically different. Their brains are physically different. Men and women evolved to complement each other’s roles, and the result has been the most successful species ever to exist on our planet. It is ludicrous to believe that we would be equal in all things, as we are obviously different. We should capitalize on each other’s strengths, and quit focusing on the weaknesses.
I believe that if enough women decided they were going to dominate Chess going forward, they would still come up short. Men are better at Chess. Women can smell things that will make men vomit. It’s a win win.
How generous of you. Men can be world champions, and women can change diapers.
See? We all have value in the world.
Braf*
And yes, Judit was only kind of close. By her own admission she was several levels below world champion level (a story Maurice Ashely told during one broadcast when he suggested to Polgar that she was pretty close).
At the same time, it's sort of amazing... this dad made all of his daughters GM level... he only picked 3 kids. He's either extremely lucky, or GM level isn't as hard as we might think, and we just need more young (and smart) girls in a good environment.
It's hard to say until someone donates me all those dollars and babies.
That is what i have said all the time, getting GM has absolutely NOTHING to do with genetics or intelligence. Men just are way more obsessive. Even if u put an average man and the world's most intelligent women together and make them learn chess at a young age passionately, the average man would surpass the most intelligent woman. There are two reasons for it.
1. Men are more obsessive. We don't know why that is but literally anything which requires constant practice is a male domain. Chess requires constant obsession to be top level at so it's obvious why women have never and "WILL NEVER" be world champions, this is something which is biologically completely impossible.
2. Women don't need to be the top. Men, as i have already said, gain love and or respect from others only if they achieve something. They are forced to either excel or be ridiculed by society.
Women on the other hand are given a very easy hand. A woman doesn't really need to "excel" at her career to be considered a success. She gets value by just existing, men get value only if they achieve and provide.
Both of these factors push men to greatness but also relegate men to the depths.
I'm sorry what
We don't get value by existing lol
sorry, that is one of the dumbest things I have heard
Ofcourse they do. For a man literally the only thing which brings him respect, love and some standing is his achievements. For a woman there are many ways this can go. If a woman is successful then it's awesome. However even if she is not so great at her career or even if she doesn't work she is still valued, loved and respected by the society for the most part.
For a man it's either greatness or nothing. If a man isn't outperforming his competition, isn't being a provider, isn't achieving success then everyone ignores him and he is considered a massive failure. Women really don't have this pressure put on them by society.
That's also one of the reasons why men achieve both greatness and also sadly make up the most self fatalities due to depression.
Just look at chess. Hou yifan got invitation to top tournaments only because she is a woman. People like judit are considered legends and get tons of respect even though she wasn't truly great. Any other 2675 male player will not get the same attention.
It applies at the amateur level as well. For a man to stand out and get some respect in a chess club he must be one of the best players. However for a female that's not the case, they are already treated way better without even needing to do anything. The social incentive is way lower to succeed.
I am sorry, but you seem to hold some slighty sexist beliefs, I am not sure if this is a product of your upbringing or society, however it is very regressive. Please reconsider your beliefs, based on real world interactions, I am sure you will see that the same principles apply to men and women.
Men and women are physically different. Their brains are physically different. Men and women evolved to complement each other’s roles, and the result has been the most successful species ever to exist on our planet. It is ludicrous to believe that we would be equal in all things, as we are obviously different. We should capitalize on each other’s strengths, and quit focusing on the weaknesses.
I believe that if enough women decided they were going to dominate Chess going forward, they would still come up short. Men are better at Chess. Women can smell things that will make men vomit. It’s a win win.
Who said anything about men and women being physically the same, you are arguing a point that noone is making. I am disagreeing that women do not need to do anything for validation from society, while men do. I believe this to be false in my society at least, so I disagree with that general statement.
@kartikeya_tiwari
It's a two way street. People expect more of males? Maybe so, but at the same time that means society is telling women that it's not worth expecting anything of them.
It's bad for both.
@kartikeya_tiwari
It's a two way street. People expect more of males? Maybe so, but at the same time that means society is telling women that it's not worth expecting anything of them.
It's bad for both.
Completely false because success of BOTH is cherished. Infact a female's success is cherished more than a male's success. However society's attitude towards "failure" is way different towards both genders.
If a man is hard working and succeeds, everyone will cherish him. If a woman succeeds, everyone will cherish her more. However if a main fails to achieve things and is struggling to provide for himself and his family etc he will be ridiculed by literally everyone(including his family most of the times) and termed an utter failure. On the other hand if a woman is unable to achieve things it's really not a big thing. She can take a passive role and no one would call her a failure. She would get enough respect and admiration from society even if she isn't successful in her career.
As it's said, men are expendable, women are precious. This attitude drives men to "stand out" more when compared to his competition because no one really cares about a man who didn't accomplish much. Women have a huge safety net against failure so there isn't a lot of pressure on them socially to excel. That's one of the reasons why even in non physical activities like chess and gaming men still excel a lot more but men are also more depressed and suicidal unfortunately. I remember a quote "the worst thing about being a man is that no one cares about you, the best thing about being a man is that no one cares about you"
Anyway, coming back to the topic. Men's obsessive nature and society's insane pressure plus no safety net in case of a failure forces men to excel and to out compete. This is something which will basically always keep men at the top in chess unless there is a drastic change in society's relentless attitude towards men combined with a genetic change which lowers their obsessive tendencies. I won't hold my breath for a female world champion, it simply is not possible with out current state
You start out your post saying you disagree, but then you agree with me so... I don't know what you're saying.
You start out your post saying you disagree, but then you agree with me so... I don't know what you're saying.
As i said, success of BOTH is cherished. The attitude is the same for both when it comes to success. No one tells a woman that "it's not worth to expect anything of you". Society still expects women to excel. For example in her match against kasparov everyone was cheering for judit. The only difference is that if men don't meet that expectation they are ridiculed and basically outcasted, whereas if the woman doesn't meet those expectations she is still respected and adored(like it should be)
For a man it's like this in terms of expectations, victories and failures- "hey u are good enough to win, i hope you win! You won? NICE.. oh you lost? well what a failure, you should be ashamed of yourself, such a loser"
For women it's more like - "hey u are good enough to win, i hope you win! You won? OMG you are a legend!... oh you lost? no problem, people are more than their results, i still love you 
"
The difference is that if men don't meet that expectation they are ridiculed and basically outcasted, whereas if the woman doesn't meet those expectations she is still respected
You just said society expects less of women, which I said is disheartening for both sides.
Tell me where you disagree with me?
It seems you're male and you want to play the victim. I'm not interested in that.
why would that be an issue?
The fact that they just joined an jumped right to this thread it a bit sus, considering the fact that someone just got banned