Why do Americans like Bobby Fischer?

  • #781

    Its a good question...why do Americans hate Bobby Fischer now. Maybe because he was a sorry excuse for a human being. I don't know.

  • #782
    Ubik42 wrote:

    Its a good question...why do Americans hate Bobby Fischer now. Maybe because he was a sorry excuse for a human being. I don't know.

    No...No....that can't be it. there's gotta be another reason.

    It was.... The Liberal Media! That's it!

    Let's see....they...persecuted Bobby Fischer. Yes! Because he.... uhhhh... seen through their lies about Israel! And dared to speak out about it! That works! So he needed to be discredited!

    And the gullible American public bought the entire thing!

    Case closed!

  • #783

    Nice idea, but I honestly can't recall hearing anything about Fischer in the news in my whole life.  I doubt he was considered news worthy since 72, or maybe there was something about his match with Karpov.  Where/when did he get the chance to rant about Israel and the WTC?

  • #784
    ClavierCavalier wrote:

    Nice idea, but I honestly can't recall hearing anything about Fischer in the news in my whole life.  I doubt he was considered news worthy since 72, or maybe there was something about his match with Karpov.  Where/when did he get the chance to rant about Israel and the WTC?


    In 2001, fischer was living in the Philipines. There he had a spot on a local radio program. Upon hearing of the attack on the WTC, Mr. Fisher was unable to cpontain his mirth. overjoyed, he jumped into his car, and rushed to the radio staion,to express his views on how the American Jews deserved the assault. Repeatedly using the phrase "F--- the USA! F--- the USA!"

    You can look it up on Youtube, to hear the whole speech. Leaves quite the impression.

    (Unrelated: Several years later, CNN ran a short clip of him being released from prison in Japan. If it didn't have the name Bobby Fischer right at the bottom, you would have thought it was just some hobo crackpot, being kicked out of a boxcar. Was sad to see how far he had fallen.)

  • #785

    Follow him into the bathroom.  Maybe he was cheating too.  Heaven forbid.

  • #786

    I knew he said bad crap about the US, but I just wasn't sure where or how he got the message out.  I thought he was living in a cave some where.  Then again, that never stopped Osama Bin Ladin...

    Now that you mention it, I do remember seeing something about him being arrested in Japan for passport reasons.

  • #787

    The passport issue involved the US State Department, who wanted to arrest him for playing chess for money in Yugoslavia (?), which was under sanction by the US. Apart from his other crimes, I consider this a political crime, which, as a chessplayer, puts me squarely on Fischer's side. 

  • #788
    chopwood wrote:

    The passport issue involved the US State Department, who wanted to arrest him for playing chess for money in Yugoslavia (?), which was under sanction by the US. Apart from his other crimes, I consider this a political crime, which, as a chessplayer, puts me squarely on Fischer's side. 

    The funny nthing was, he had gotten away with it. If he had just kept his mouth shut, (and stayed out of the US) he was fine. The State Department wan't going after him.

    But then he had to start shooting his moth off on 9-11. And he ceased to be so untouchable as he was before. Then the State Department started rattling it's sabre.

    He brought that whole arrest in Japan on himself.

  • #789
    ClavierCavalier wrote:

    I knew he said bad crap about the US, but I just wasn't sure where or how he got the message out.  I thought he was living in a cave some where.  Then again, that never stopped Osama Bin Ladin...

    Now that you mention it, I do remember seeing something about him being arrested in Japan for passport reasons.

    Now that you bring it up, he was also in the paper a whole lot in '92. During his match with Spassky. I still have many of the clippings.

  • #790

    He hadn't exactly "gotten away with it." His US passport was revoked. He couldn't go anywhere that had a mutual extradition treaty with the US. The US State Department stood readgy to bring him back and try him for violating sanctions- meaning he would have to forfeit all the money he won, serve time in prison, and lose his right to leave the US ever again. He became a man without a country. I think that's harsh- our country has a terrible attitude, in my opinion.

  • #791

    As opposed to his (heehee!)

  • #792
    chopwood wrote:

    He hadn't exactly "gotten away with it." His US passport was revoked. He couldn't go anywhere that had a mutual extradition treaty with the US. The US State Department stood readgy to bring him back and try him for violating sanctions- meaning he would have to forfeit all the money he won, serve time in prison, and lose his right to leave the US ever again. He became a man without a country. I think that's harsh- our country has a terrible attitude, in my opinion.

    He should consider himself lucky, the usual penalty for violating sactions is a B-52 bombing run.

  • #793

    Unless you're from Langley.

  • #794

    I don't believe the US has any right to keep a world-class grandmaster from playing anywhere he wants to.

  • #795

    Even if he was a giant flaming nutball.

  • #796
    chopwood wrote:

    our country has a terrible attitude, in my opinion.

    So do you. Taking the side of somebody the cheered the death of thousands makes you a real piece of shit in my book. I'd like you to face the families of those that lost loved ones in those terror attacks, play a recording of Fischer cheering the deaths, and then tell those families you stand up to be counted with Fischer. If I were there, it would be very hard for me to refrain from breaking my foot off in your douchebag ass.

  • #797
    AndyClifton wrote:

    Even if he was a giant flaming nutball.

    giant RACIST flaming nutball :)

  • #798

    Some of you posting now sound way more bonkers than he ever was.

  • #799
    netzach wrote:

    Some of you posting now sound way more bonkers than he ever was.

    really, I have yet to read anyone on here cheering the destruction and deaths of thousands of people and then blaming on a Jewish conspiracy. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

  • #800

    That's because this is a chess website not a conspiracy monster-raving-loony one.

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