Will Anand defend against Carlsen?

  • #181

       That`s an interesting observation , GreedyPawnGrabber!

       However, Carlsen isn`t really a representative of modern computer era. He displayed his classical (book) chess knowledge many many times. He knows all the old games, and the ideas behind the moves.

       On the other hand, Nakamura is a real `computer` thought chess player, as he claims..

       I suppose that could be the difference between those two, and the 100+ Elo margin , despite the talent both of them possess.

  • #182
    IgyZz wrote:

       That`s an interesting observation , GreedyPawnGrabber!

       However, Carlsen isn`t really a representative of modern computer era. He displayed his classical (book) chess knowledge many many times. He knows all the old games, and the ideas behind the moves.

       On the other hand, Nakamura is a real `computer` thought chess player, as he claims..

       I suppose that could be the difference between those two, and the 100+ Elo margin , despite the talent both of them possess.

    Nakamura claims to have never read a single chess book and his training was completely computer based,Database coaching as he says.Maybe if he  had read some books,we might have been seeing a differen world #1 today.

  • #183

       Exactly, Likhit :)

  • #184

    "I never read a chess book", " I never had a chess set"...yeah sure, like they jumped from zero to GM without going through the forest. Anyone interested in the game starts off owning a set, and then buying books to learn more. 

  • #185

    u mean mc hammer?

  • #186
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  • #187

    Jon Ludvig

  • #188

    Where can I find the games between Carlsen and Anand?  Can anybody tell me?

  • #189

    Try chessdom?

  • #190

    Try chessdom?

  • #191

    Chessgames.com

  • #192

    Summary of the entire thread:

    Carlsen does have a bit higher rating than Anand.......

    Ratings don't mean nothing!!!!!!

    Carlsen has been doing quite a bit better in tournaments lately than Anand.....

    Tournament results don't mean nothing!!!!!!!!

    Carlsen did just take Anands Championship title........

    Titles don't mean nothing!!!!!!!!!!???!!

  • #193
    Scottrf wrote:

    For all the talk of Anand's preparation, the Aronian game seems to be the only time recently somebody has walked into it and got a really bad position early. It also shows he isn't holding some mythical game winning preparation back.

    Since before the World Championship, Anand's barely been winning any games, and Carlsen lost two long games in 2012.

    To compare Anand's 'strong preparation' vs Carlsens 'weak openings', you'd think Anand was the one pushing for a win in most of his games, and Carlsen struggling to get anything going. Looking at tournaments, it's clearly the opposite. Carlsen is getting positions he likes more than his opponent, isn't that what opening play should be about? Not some objective +0.4 on Houdini.

    I'm not saying that Carlsen is an opening master, getting great positions, but it's clearly a style choice, and you'd be hard pressed to say it isn't working for him.

    People have had 9 months to read this...

  • #194
    varelse1 wrote:

    Summary of the entire thread:

     

    Carlsen does have a bit higher rating than Anand.......

     

    Ratings don't mean nothing!!!!!!

     

    Carlsen has been doing quite a bit better in tournaments lately than Anand.....

     

    Tournament results don't mean nothing!!!!!!!!

     

    Carlsen did just take Anands Championship title........

     

    Titles don't mean nothing!!!!!!!!!!???!!

    Not to forget all the "The match was too short to say anything about who is the stronger player of the two!!!"

  • #195

    Yes! I forgot about that.

    Thank you, fablehaft!

    I am sure Vishy's "Superior Match Experience" would have come to bear in that case.

  • #196

    Varelse1, fabelhaft:

    Carlsen won. Be happy.

  • #197
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