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EscherehcsE
TheNameofNames wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:

I hear panhandlers can make good money - tax free!

they make more money than i do

Grab a piece of cardboard, make a sign - You're in bidness!

TheNameofNames
EscherehcsE wrote:
TheNameofNames wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:

I hear panhandlers can make good money - tax free!

they make more money than i do

Grab a piece of cardboard, make a sign - You're in bidness!

i cant afford cardboard should i just rob another homeless person

llama_l
TheNameofNames wrote:

i only ever want to find loop holes im not interested at all in working

That tends to happen if your family supports you. If you were suffering on the street you might feel differently.

EscherehcsE
TheNameofNames wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:
TheNameofNames wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:

I hear panhandlers can make good money - tax free!

they make more money than i do

Grab a piece of cardboard, make a sign - You're in bidness!

i cant afford cardboard should i just rob another homeless person

Go to Walmart and ask one of the stockers. They're always flattening boxes after they've emptied them. I'm sure he'll give you more than you need.

EscherehcsE

If you live in California, I guess you don't even have to take empty boxes. Full ones are fair game, as far as I can tell...

llama_l

Not that there's anything wrong with living with your family. That's how most humans did it for most of history.

But for your own mental health, it's good to have some kind of job. Saying it's a "dead end job" is a silly excuse. The point isn't to make money, the point is to do something productive, so at the end of the day you don't feel bad.

It might sound silly to someone who has never been out of work, or to someone who has never had a job, but people who have been in both situations know the difference. Having a job where you sweep a floor 8 hours a week is better than nothing... and not because of the money... just a general life tip.

llama_l

And I think you said something about disabilities in a different topic.

Ok, but you can volunteer somewhere.

Set up your life so that there are people expecting to see you at a certain time at a certain place and you'll have something to do... that's what I recommend.

TheNameofNames
llama_l wrote:

Not that there's anything wrong with living with your family. That's how most humans did it for most of history.

But for your own mental health, it's good to have some kind of job. Saying it's a "dead end job" is a silly excuse. The point isn't to make money, the point is to do something productive, so at the end of the day you don't feel bad.

It might sound silly to someone who has never been out of work, or to someone who has never had a job, but people who have been in both situations know the difference. Having a job where you sweep a floor 8 hours a week is better than nothing... and not because of the money... just a general life tip.

i delivered pizzas for 3 months but i got fired because i screwed up an order, i think i probably have a learning disorder tbh because i was struggling to take orders and i kept forgetting how to use the credit card machine, i made a lot of mistakes tbh that i dont think i should have been making but sometimes things just dont click with me i really liked it as a job though because i wasnt trapped in a building which i think would suck, and you get to go into stores. Its an underrated job tbh but i have some mental problems i think i struggle with learning even when i know i should be able to

TheNameofNames

I was doing everything besides making pizzas there though i dont know why and after i got fired they moved locations lmao i dont know if i fd up their relations or what

llama_l
TheNameofNames wrote:
llama_l wrote:

Not that there's anything wrong with living with your family. That's how most humans did it for most of history.

But for your own mental health, it's good to have some kind of job. Saying it's a "dead end job" is a silly excuse. The point isn't to make money, the point is to do something productive, so at the end of the day you don't feel bad.

It might sound silly to someone who has never been out of work, or to someone who has never had a job, but people who have been in both situations know the difference. Having a job where you sweep a floor 8 hours a week is better than nothing... and not because of the money... just a general life tip.

i delivered pizzas for 3 months but i got fired because i screwed up an order, i think i probably have a learning disorder tbh because i was struggling to take orders and i kept forgetting how to use the credit card machine, i made a lot of mistakes tbh that i dont think i should have been making but sometimes things just dont click with me i really liked it as a job though because i wasnt trapped in a building which i think would suck, and you get to go into stores. Its an underrated job tbh but i have some mental problems i think i struggle with learning even when i know i should be able to

Heh, I almost got fired for similar stuff at a fast food job one time tongue.png

If you have learning issues that's tough, and I don't have an easy answer, but I know it's better to go out there and do something... in regards to chess, I've helped the organizers set up tables and chairs before. It's not something a person could do every day, more like a once a month thing (or however often there are tournaments) but it's a way someone can get involved with people in their area. In my opinion it's important to find something like that.

TheNameofNames
llama_l wrote:
TheNameofNames wrote:
llama_l wrote:

Not that there's anything wrong with living with your family. That's how most humans did it for most of history.

But for your own mental health, it's good to have some kind of job. Saying it's a "dead end job" is a silly excuse. The point isn't to make money, the point is to do something productive, so at the end of the day you don't feel bad.

It might sound silly to someone who has never been out of work, or to someone who has never had a job, but people who have been in both situations know the difference. Having a job where you sweep a floor 8 hours a week is better than nothing... and not because of the money... just a general life tip.

i delivered pizzas for 3 months but i got fired because i screwed up an order, i think i probably have a learning disorder tbh because i was struggling to take orders and i kept forgetting how to use the credit card machine, i made a lot of mistakes tbh that i dont think i should have been making but sometimes things just dont click with me i really liked it as a job though because i wasnt trapped in a building which i think would suck, and you get to go into stores. Its an underrated job tbh but i have some mental problems i think i struggle with learning even when i know i should be able to

Heh, I almost got fired for similar stuff at a fast food job one time

If you have learning issues that's tough, and I don't have an easy answer, but I know it's better to go out there and do something... in regards to chess, I've helped the organizers set up tables and chairs before. It's not something a person could do every day, more like a once a month thing (or however often there are tournaments) but it's a way someone can get involved with people in their area. In my opinion it's important to find something like that.

i said a learning disability but i dont really know, i think id need to get diagnosed every now and then ill get this feeling of doubt and its all i can focus on, im sure its something worse and more ingrained like a screwed up reward system which could be the result of multiple bad habits, i dont really know. Work is something i think about all of the time but i can never decide how to solve it, i have a million reasons why i shouldnt work though, like my current living situation.

TheNameofNames

with me its never what you think its always specific, i mean ive applied to fastfood restaurants but i definitely dont want to work there. I just want money tbh, flipping burgers wont really make me happy obviously not when im pushing 30

EndgameEnthusiast2357
Jill_St_James wrote:

Life has a lot that's good in store for you that's not readily apparent by 30.

I always thought 45-50 is a good life span, in this current society. Maybe in a star trek type civilization living to 100 would be fine, but growing old is far more painful than it is pleasant. That's why retirement is such a sham. You had your 30 best life years stolen working and being sleep deprived and miserable, only to finally have "freedom" at 65-75. Sorry, but the 20s are the true golden years, and I will wait until 25 if I have to to find a job that will NOT burn me out like that. You can't enjoy any amount of money being chronically sleep deprived and mental exhaustion.

EscherehcsE

Find an area that interests you, then try to get a job in that area, even if it's just an entry level job. The idea is to work your way up to a decent level. You need to work in a job that you enjoy.

llama_l

I don't know man... I'd say it's not about "being happy" or some ideal thing like that. It's about whether or not you're in a better place now than you were a month, or a week, or 1 day ago.

"I'm flipping burgers at 30"

So what? I've seen 60 year old guys at McDonalds. Doesn't matter. That sounds like an excuse or a way of distracting yourself.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Excuse for what? There is no moral obligation for people to work. It's a practical necessity only and a personal decision only. The extra $20,000 one might make toughing out an entry level job for a year instead of taking care of their mental and physical health will not benefit many people in the long run.

llama_l
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

There is no moral obligation for people to work.

Correct.

And I never suggested there was. I know you haven't read my other posts in this toipc, but I wonder whether you'd understand them even if you do...

llama_l

The point is work is psychologically beneficial... and if OP is unhappy it's something worth trying.

Money and social status and "obligation" are all nonsense (if your parents are supporting you, you don't need any of that)... but as a human you do need a sense of purpose and a connection to the community around you... this isn't obvious until you lose these things, at which point you may be unhappy and not know how to fix it... so you post online to random strangers as a way of asking for help... etc.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Fair enough, but spending 8 hours a day in the same place sweeping floors isn't good for mental health. The best types of job for mental health are getting out in the world, that require travel, like truck driving, which is why I am looking into that. Maybe those little store jobs are good for part time, but not full time, in terms of mental health.

TheNameofNames
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Fair enough, but spending 8 hours a day in the same place sweeping floors isn't good for mental health. The best types of job for mental health are getting out in the world, that require travel, like truck driving, which is why I am looking into that. Maybe those little store jobs are good for part time, but not full time, in terms of mental health.

truck driving is brutal they are sleep deprived all of the time every job sucks were never happy