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Are the actual fair play policy violators actually punished?

  • #1

    See, I got the feeling that people who catually violate the fair play policy are not being punished. I just fisnished a game where I forked a certain player's queen and he just stoped playing, let the timer run. I browsed trough such player's profile and noticed he has been doing the same thing since more than a year ago, because in his profile there are comments of people complaining excatcly of the same thing. The earlyest complain is from 22 months ago. Also, among these comments many people pointed this certain player has received many times that message saying he "may have violated our Fair Play policy - it has been noted and they may have their account restricted". Even so, this very player continues playing on live chess, apparently without any limitation and thus repeating this old habit of his, this time against me.

    If this player is able to do it, than many other are able to do the same if they want. It happens people actually are doing this pretty often. So I'm coming to the conclusion the fair play policy system is not working or is not set to work as players expected.

    Also, another thing that makes me think so regarding this system is that I myself have been receiving a warning telling me not to abort games too often or let my opponents wait in vain. This is a funny thing that I should receive such a warning since I never did it.

    So it seems from my point of view this fair play policy is working against those who do not violate the fair play policy.; or it's working randomily against and/or in favor of both the good and the bad guys. It's unsetling.

    I would like to suggest players with a historic of violations to the fair play policy should be flagged thus, enabling other players to optionally avoiding matiching these flaged players or to know beforehand of their status and abort games before they even start. That would make live chess a boring place for policy violators because the decent people would most likely avoid wasting their time with them.

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  • #3

    I hate when people do that. It happens to me often. Sometimes they wait 7 mins out of 10 thinking I'll leave or not pay attention and when they see me immediately move they leave, but at least now I know I can report them or message them to leave a trail. Thanks for the post;)

  • #4
    super10701 wrote:

    I hate when people do that. It happens to me often. Sometimes they wait 7 mins out of 10 thinking I'll leave or not pay attention and when they see me immediately move they leave, but at least now I know I can report them or message them to leave a trail. Thanks for the post;)

    Yeah.

    I was thinking, that flag system I suggested, in wich players with a historic of unfair play would be marked as such, well that system would be great because fair players could just avoid them and save their time.

  • #5

    Yes, saving time. Most important.OP.... What have you been up to! We must be told.

  • #6
    GusSNog wrote:

    See, I got the feeling that people who catually violate the fair play policy are not being punished. I just fisnished a game where I forked a certain player's queen and he just stoped playing, let the timer run. I browsed trough such player's profile and noticed he has been doing the same thing since more than a year ago, because in his profile there are comments of people complaining excatcly of the same thing. The earlyest complain is from 22 months ago. Also, among these comments many people pointed this certain player has received many times that message saying he "may have violated our Fair Play policy - it has been noted and they may have their account restricted". Even so, this very player continues playing on live chess, apparently without any limitation and thus repeating this old habit of his, this time against me.

    If this player is able to do it, than many other are able to do the same if they want. It happens people actually are doing this pretty often. So I'm coming to the conclusion the fair play policy system is not working or is not set to work as players expected.

    Also, another thing that makes me think so regarding this system is that I myself have been receiving a warning telling me not to abort games too often or let my opponents wait in vain. This is a funny thing that I should receive such a warning since I never did it.

    So it seems from my point of view this fair play policy is working against those who do not violate the fair play policy.; or it's working randomily against and/or in favor of both the good and the bad guys. It's unsetling.

    I would like to suggest players with a historic of violations to the fair play policy should be flagged thus, enabling other players to optionally avoiding matiching these flaged players or to know beforehand of their status and abort games before they even start. That would make live chess a boring place for policy violators because the decent people would most likely avoid wasting their time with them.

    We have an auto system in place that helps with auto-modding and fair-play enforcement. Any member who stalls or violates fair play is handled and dealt with. :)

    On a side note, if you are looking at this forum and not sure what fair play is, the rules of fair play can be found here: https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444922

  • #7

    I just played a similar game as the one described above. I was about to promote my pawn and the player "left the chat" with over a minute left on his clock. This is unsportsmanlike behavior. There should be a pop up that says the server will "auto-resign" the game if a player intentionally leaves a losing game (or any game for that matter). Sportsmanship requires all players to act respectfully toward their opponent. Regardless of the outcome.

  • #8

    Good luck with that.

  • #9

    what concerns me is that some players that are mostly Indians do not play fairly. You plan how to win in a 5/5 minute play but they start not moving for say 3 minutes that you get tired & you forget the plan how to play. Then they start playing vey slow & at the 20 last seconds of the play, they start playing fast & it adds to play & then at the last 2 seconds as you forgotten all your plan, they win as you no longer have any plan in your mind.

    I think the extra seconds should not be added to plays as these are misused by some players.

  • #10

    Here we go again. How do you know they are " Indian?"

  • #11

    I don't understand how it's possible to "stall to make opponents wait unnecessarily".

    Wouldn't you just lose on time?

  • #12

    Support the suggestion by GuSnog that players who hapitually abandon games be "flagged" with a notation of their history of high game abandonment.  These players should be able to "earn" redemption and have the flag removed after a certain number of good behavior games.  

  • #13

    I aborted a lot of games where my opponent would not start the game. As a consequence I am also flagged as a fair play violator. It's true I am punished, I can't search on ratings? Also I can't abort anymore!

  • #14

    Is this "pool for all sorts of violators" purgatory or hell?In other words can the violator ever exit from this pool or are they condemned forever?!?

  • #15

    I just played a 30 min game against an international player and a yellow 
    mark appeared and said my opponent is being investigated for "Fair Play" due to disconnects. I was thinking it was due to poor connection. Earlier in the day I played someone who disconnected with much greater frequency but it did not trigger anything?  How reliable should we assume our opponents connection to be? This was an international player also during "live" setting. 

  • #16

    I have just spent time at a game at 54 moves (Online Chess). He has just the King now, and I have a Rock. a Knight , three pawn (to of them nearly going to be Queens), and my King. Now he apearently has diisappered. This is not fair play. 

  • #17

    Hit him over the head with the rock. Result.

  • #18
    rokaki4 wrote:

    I have just spent time at a game at 54 moves (Online Chess). He has just the King now, and I have a Rock. a Knight , three pawn (to of them nearly going to be Queens), and my King. Now he apearently has diisappered. This is not fair play. 

    If you're referring to https://www.chess.com/daily/game/143677668?page=1, this game seems to now be at move 56, so your opponent is definitely still "here". Presumably you mean vacation time: see the FAQ entries https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444787-how-does-vacation-work-how-much-time-do-i-get- and https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444860

  • #19
    rokaki4 escribió:

    I have just spent time at a game at 54 moves (Online Chess). He has just the King now, and I have a Rock. a Knight , three pawn (to of them nearly going to be Queens), and my King. Now he apearently has diisappered. This is not fair play. 

     

    What are you talking about man!? Smells like a draw to me.

  • #20
    david wrote:
    rokaki4 wrote:

    I have just spent time at a game at 54 moves (Online Chess). He has just the King now, and I have a Rock. a Knight , three pawn (to of them nearly going to be Queens), and my King. Now he apearently has diisappered. This is not fair play. 

    If you're referring to https://www.chess.com/daily/game/143677668?page=1, this game seems to now be at move 56, so your opponent is definitely still "here". Presumably you mean vacation time: see the FAQ entries https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444787-how-does-vacation-work-how-much-time-do-i-get- and https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444860

    I wrote " Now he "apearently" has diisappered " - a little surprised, he is back.

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