# Is this impossible? or Am I doing something wrong?

This is a puzzle I have been working on for the past seven months. It has stumped me. It's from a chess app on my cell phone. Is this just a teaser or am i doing something wrong?

Okay thanks. I will try a couple of more times then I will check out the winning move.

i like this position... should i give the answer?

First move is Qa2

Firepower8 wrote:

this puzzle is just really hard actually, the winning move is this

Qa2!! is the winning move

Its fonted in white color right above here in the blank line so that its not a spoiler unless you look at it

"Qa2!!"? It won't be mate in 2 if the king moves away from the corner region.

right :) Qa2 is the only move.

alekhine wrote:

so the goal is NOT to mate?

No the goal is TO mate. Qa2 seems like a good move but what is the next move. That stomps me.

Its impossible, trust me. My grandfather was famous for chess and he says that thats a non-kill. The king would keeep on runnin away. I have been stuck in that same situation.

c8=Q does not mate in 2, the king escapes to a7 (which is vacated after knight takes queen).

If knight moves then c8=Q mate, and if the knight goes to c8 then d8=N mate.

1. qa2 kxa8

2. c8=Q++

1. qa2 kc6

2. qd5++

1. qa2 nb5

2. c8=Q++

Already said: king goes to a7.

For the record, this is a famous problem by the great composer Leonid Kubbel, some 103 years old. It's famous, because:

- The first move is not so predictable, actually its one of the first problems with the "give and take" theme.

- All mates that occur, excluding two (when knight moves to c6 or b5), are model mates.

- Because it's a miniature (as such are classified problems with a maximum of 7 pieces).

:) you guys followed my variations?

1. qa2 kxa8

2. c8=Q++

1. qa2 kc6

2. qd5++

1. qa2 nb5

2. c8=Q++

1. Qa2 Nc8

2. Then what is white's move for mate?

so Qa2 doesn't work?

DKof wrote:
1. Qa2 Nc8

2. Then what is white's move for mate?

so Qa2 doesn't work?

That said as well: 2.d8=N #.

Ah, didn't see it listed with the c8 discussion.  Nice

ah forgot to add that variation of Nc8, but yea IM Pfren covered it for me. :)

haha I posted the same puzzle few minutes ago and then I saw this topic now. Whatha coincidence!!!

Well, if you want see the solution, then check my last topic: Mate in 2 (HARD)!

it is hard. Throw it to the garbage can. LOL

It wasnt very hard... of course depending on your level it would be.