Is this impossible? or Am I doing something wrong?

JY7

This is a puzzle I have been working on for the past seven months. It has stumped me. It's from a chess app on my cell phone. Is this just a teaser or am i doing something wrong?

 



JY7

Okay thanks. I will try a couple of more times then I will check out the winning move.

adamredsox24

i like this position... should i give the answer?

adamredsox24

First move is Qa2

VULPES_VULPES
Firepower8 wrote:

this puzzle is just really hard actually, the winning move is this

Qa2!! is the winning move

Its fonted in white color right above here in the blank line so that its not a spoiler unless you look at it

"Qa2!!"? It won't be mate in 2 if the king moves away from the corner region.

adamredsox24

right :) Qa2 is the only move.

JY7
alekhine wrote:

so the goal is NOT to mate?

No the goal is TO mate. Qa2 seems like a good move but what is the next move. That stomps me.

sofimarina

Its impossible, trust me. My grandfather was famous for chess and he says that thats a non-kill. The king would keeep on runnin away. I have been stuck in that same situation.Cool

pfren

c8=Q does not mate in 2, the king escapes to a7 (which is vacated after knight takes queen).

If knight moves then c8=Q mate, and if the knight goes to c8 then d8=N mate.

adamredsox24

1. qa2 kxa8

2. c8=Q++

 

1. qa2 kc6

2. qd5++

 

1. qa2 nb5

2. c8=Q++

pfren

Already said: king goes to a7.

pfren

For the record, this is a famous problem by the great composer Leonid Kubbel, some 103 years old. It's famous, because:

- The first move is not so predictable, actually its one of the first problems with the "give and take" theme.

- All mates that occur, excluding two (when knight moves to c6 or b5), are model mates.

- Because it's a miniature (as such are classified problems with a maximum of 7 pieces).

adamredsox24

:) you guys followed my variations?

DKof
adamredsox24 wrote:

1. qa2 kxa8

2. c8=Q++

 

1. qa2 kc6

2. qd5++

 

1. qa2 nb5

2. c8=Q++

1. Qa2 Nc8

2. Then what is white's move for mate?

so Qa2 doesn't work?

pfren
DKof wrote:
1. Qa2 Nc8

2. Then what is white's move for mate?

so Qa2 doesn't work?

That said as well: 2.d8=N #.

DKof

Ah, didn't see it listed with the c8 discussion.  Nice

adamredsox24

ah forgot to add that variation of Nc8, but yea IM Pfren covered it for me. :)

TempterMan

haha I posted the same puzzle few minutes ago and then I saw this topic now. Whatha coincidence!!! 

Well, if you want see the solution, then check my last topic: Mate in 2 (HARD)!

chessnaivete

it is hard. Throw it to the garbage can. LOL

adamredsox24

It wasnt very hard... of course depending on your level it would be.