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I used to consider myself a reasonably intelligent person until I read post one. I'm lost. 

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HueyWilliams wrote:
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Wormhole is a media for the instantaneous emergence.I think i have whitnessed wormhole.

If one day the teleportation technology will be applicable,i hope this miracle won't loose it's supernatural origin. 

Whoa. This is the English language equivalent of 2 + 2 = 5.

According to religion that space,planets,and living forms are consist of spirit (awareness).Thus they are alive and capable to multiply and replicating.

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kaynight wrote:

Sick of Britain at the moment. Tories are in power..Suicide squads are rampant, and now that terrible fire, caused by cost-cutting with faulty materials.

Both the UK and US are reeling from their latest elections.  At least May got shot down (a bit) in the last one on your side of the Atlantic.  What a mess for both countries.

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I'm still lost. All the way back to the OP's first post. 

2+2=5... I'm guessing this has something to do with thinking outside of the box. 

I've never even heard the word constructivism used in a sentence, but I think it means to see the world in the way that you personally interpret it.

I don't understand how the religion subjects came about, or anything else.  

All I know is that we live in a world where people have vastly different opinions and beliefs, but we still have to coexist and live amongst each other. Human nature can never be taken out of the equation, it`s impossible, but we still have to share the world. Nothing wrong with having strong beliefs, as long as we all respect that others do also. No reason why we can't all go out for a beer and talk about the things we do have in common, like chess.  

 

Edit: When I was growing up my Dad was in and out of AA. The one good thing I learned from that came from a poem on my dad's AA bracelet, the line that stuck with me went something like ``accept the world for the way it is, and not as I would have it``.   

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That sounds like a song.  Hum a few bars and we can all chime in.

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People sometimes confuse the difference between an open mind and a detachment from reality. The former is about accepting a large variety of interpretations of the reality, while the latter is about denying it and substituting it with your own! (Don't get any ideas, I love Mythbusters!)

 

As far as religion goes, there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand that this all is a metaphor and more a philosophy than science. Taking the "Earth is 6000 years old" stuff as a physical reality is, of course, a silliness. Might as well assume the existence of Elven gods and Hogwarts, if you want to go down that route. happy.png

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Being open-minded means that you accept the negational value of logical judgement, it means you can make arguments and reason moral values. In a way this seems self-contradictory since accepting certain things means not accepting the opposition, but this is essentially how logic works. Metaphysics is just one example of the metaphorical interpretations you can find in a variety of religions. The goal is to break it down to Mathematical Formulation so that we don't base our moral values on faith alone. Having an open mind means accepting things as they are, hence 2 + 2 = 4.

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2+2=A
A-2 = 2
B = 2
A-2 = B
(A-2)/B = 1
C = 1
(A-2)/B = C
A-2 = BC
BC = A-2
BC+ 2 = A
BC+ 4 = A + B
BC = B
So B + 4 = B + A
Which means 4 = A or A = 4

The numbers don't lie cubronzo.
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LM_player wrote:

2+2=A
A-2 = 2
B = 2
A-2 = B
(A-2)/B = 1
C = 1
(A-2)/B = C
A-2 = BC
BC = A-2
BC+ 2 = A
BC+ 4 = A + B
BC = B
So B + 4 = B + A
Which means 4 = A or A = 4

The numbers don't lie cubronzo.

Don't even try the Gurtligoge technique, he's trapped in the relativistic definitions of reality. You have to use reason alone.

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s23bog wrote:

What does "... believes all things..." mean to you?

I think you are using faith as a way to make up for your lack of understanding regarding the deep nature of overall reality.

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I think you are being silly Bog.

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We aren't really talking about faith or religion. You seem to be pushing faith into the crowd but not giving much a reason or argument for such beliefs. You are using the "God of the gaps" argument. Not explaining how things are, just like the Atheists who sat that the reason for existence is a meaningless and unanswerable question.

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It's a sign of intellectual incompetence.

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s23bog wrote:

 At the very least, I try to believe that someone is right in their own mind, even if they aren't.

 

The reality doesn't depend on what one has in their mind though. I can hold a belief in my mind that drinking cyanide acid is just as healthy as drinking water, but if I decide to practice this belief, then the reality will quickly put me in my place. wink.png

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This thread needs a chill pill.  Jupiter sized.

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s23bog wrote:
MayCaesar wrote:
s23bog wrote:

 At the very least, I try to believe that someone is right in their own mind, even if they aren't.

 

The reality doesn't depend on what one has in their mind though. I can hold a belief in my mind that drinking cyanide acid is just as healthy as drinking water, but if I decide to practice this belief, then the reality will quickly put me in my place.

To me, it is more of a thing of understanding.  In order to understand what someone is saying, you have to be able to see how what they say is true.  People are typically correct in their own eyes.  If you think of them as being wrong, then you aren't really seeing eye to eye, are you?

 

Well, being right in one's own eyes doesn't mean being right with regards to the objective reality. I can understand one's point of view, and at the same time realize that it is wrong.

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II plus II. Count the I's. 1 = I.
Not that I think you will accept reality.
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@s23bog

 

I get what you are saying, but it has nothing to do with whether the person really is right or not. It only has to do with how they think and understanding their thinking, which is different from agreeing that they are right. I can understand the point of a person believing the Earth is flat, and I can even look at it same way as they do and find the claim reasonable - but outside of this mental experiment, I'm not going to think that it is true. 

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well in that case, I should have been getting full marks on my math tests for years 🤣🤣🤣