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Then when there's a lul, use the sneaky word "because"

So "explain it to me" and after they take a pause, start your next sentence with the word "because" and then again end with "explain it to me"

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llama wrote:

Well, I've never played the game... and again, this game is mostly played by people younger than me, so the inexact word "proof" is probably fine for most players.

But I will say that another useful tactic (whether it's in a game of among us or in a police station) is saying as little as possible... of course people who don't talk are sus, so what you can do is keep asking things like "explain it to me" over and over (or something similar). It would simultaneously put the onus of talking on them, while creating the illusion that you're earnestly interested in brining more facts to light.

Any tips if you are imposter?

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Yeah, what I've been saying tongue.png

Again, not from a game perspective (which will change things) but from a purely psychological perspective:

 - Say as little as possible when you're guilty.

 - Use words and tone centered around facts and not feelings (you want to communicate not convince)

 - Be forceful in your denials, and don't explain them. An innocent person will simply say "no." And innocent person gives short answers to similar questions because they're not worried about convincing you. Instead of convincing you, an innocent person is worried about how many facts are on the table for everyone to see.

In summary give dispassionate, short, and logical replies. Don't be afraid of silence. You can help emphasize the psychological effect by injecting the word "because" into your explanations, and you can encourage your opponent to talk in an innocent sounding way by asking them to explain things to you.

That's my take on the game without having ever having played it, and mostly watching police interrogation videos tongue.png

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llama wrote:

Yeah, what I've been saying

Again, not from a game perspective (which will change things) but from a purely psychological perspective:

 - Say as little as possible when you're guilty.

 - Use words and tone centered around facts and not feelings (you want to communicate not convince)

 - Be forceful in your denials, and don't explain them. An innocent person will simply say "no." And innocent person gives short answers to similar questions because they're not worried about convincing you. Instead of convincing you, an innocent person is worried about how many facts are on the table for everyone to see.

In summary give dispassionate, short, and logical replies. Don't be afraid of silence. You can help emphasize the psychological affect by injecting the word "because" into your explanations, and you can encourage your opponent to talk in an innocent sounding way by asking them to explain things to you.

That's my take on the game without having ever played it, and mostly watching police interrogation videos

Could you try taking the dictator spot?

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huh?
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jumphrope wrote:
huh?

Dictator spot is the spot where you get to vote out people you choose

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I mean, the thing with among us is it's not a police interrogation right tongue.png

At least when I watch popular youtubers, they're playing with the same people over and over... which means that the way you "should" act when you're imposter isn't only about what's optimal for that round... you need to think about all the other round that will come afterwards.

In other words you need to try and act the same whether you're imposter or crewmate.

If your style is more emotional, illogical, and you can lead others via charisma, at first you're going to come off as very suspicious, but after people get to know you, they'll understand that's just the way you are.

But if you play in public lobby (is that what it's called?) that might be a risky way to go about it.

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llama wrote:

I mean, the thing with among us is it's not a police interrogation right

At least when I watch popular youtubers, they're playing with the same people over and over... which means that the way you "should" act when you're imposter isn't only about what's optimal for that round... you need to think about all the other round that will come afterwards.

In other words you need to try and act the same whether you're imposter or crewmate.

If your style is more emotional, illogical, and you can lead others via charisma, at first you're going to come off as very suspicious, but after people get to know you, they'll understand that's just the way you are.

But if you play in public lobby (is that what it's called?) that might be a risky way to go about it.

Yeah... I get what your saying. If there were 2 imposters, what would be the outcome of blaming your other fellow imposter? Would it earn the crewmates trust?

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kracker12345 wrote:
jumphrope wrote:
huh?

Dictator spot is the spot where you get to vote out people you choose

I don't know what that is. Is that a game mode? Or an endgame situation where there's just one vote left? I don't know.

Choosing who to vote for has a lot to do with game knowledge of course. People can catch you doing / not doing tasks, or doing / not doing the correct tasks... taking too long or not long enough. How and when you call sabotages or meetings, whether you stick with a group or go off on your own, etc.

Again, I don't know much about the game itself. I've never played it.

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llama wrote:
kracker12345 wrote:
jumphrope wrote:
huh?

Dictator spot is the spot where you get to vote out people you choose

I don't know what that is. Is that a game mode? Or an endgame situation where there's just one vote left? I don't know.

Choosing who to vote for has a lot to do with game knowledge of course. People can catch you doing / not doing tasks, or doing / not doing the correct tasks... taking too long or not long enough. How and when you call sabotages or meetings, whether you stick with a group or go off on your own, etc.

Again, I don't know much about the game itself. I've never played it.

It's like a position where everyone trusts you and everyone votes out the people who you say to vote.

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kracker12345 wrote:
llama wrote:

I mean, the thing with among us is it's not a police interrogation right

At least when I watch popular youtubers, they're playing with the same people over and over... which means that the way you "should" act when you're imposter isn't only about what's optimal for that round... you need to think about all the other round that will come afterwards.

In other words you need to try and act the same whether you're imposter or crewmate.

If your style is more emotional, illogical, and you can lead others via charisma, at first you're going to come off as very suspicious, but after people get to know you, they'll understand that's just the way you are.

But if you play in public lobby (is that what it's called?) that might be a risky way to go about it.

Yeah... I get what your saying. If there were 2 imposters, what would be the outcome of blaming your other fellow imposter? Would it earn the crewmates trust?

Well yeah, you need to listen to the evidence and read the room's emotion. If you've determined that others are going to vote for your teammate because they have a good reason, then you need to vote with them.

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kracker12345 wrote:
llama wrote:
kracker12345 wrote:
jumphrope wrote:
huh?

Dictator spot is the spot where you get to vote out people you choose

I don't know what that is. Is that a game mode? Or an endgame situation where there's just one vote left? I don't know.

Choosing who to vote for has a lot to do with game knowledge of course. People can catch you doing / not doing tasks, or doing / not doing the correct tasks... taking too long or not long enough. How and when you call sabotages or meetings, whether you stick with a group or go off on your own, etc.

Again, I don't know much about the game itself. I've never played it.

It's like a position where everyone trusts you and everyone votes out the people who you say to vote.

Well, of course keep a mental list of suspicious people. If you can redirect people's attention on someone else then do that... but again it obviously has to be a suspicious person, because accusing a definitely innocent person is no good wink.png

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By the way, none of this is probably going to be very useful in helping you get away with murder in real life tongue.png

Police (and lawyers) almost always ask you questions they either 1. know the answer to already or 2. can find out the real answer later.

They also ask open ended questions. They let you do all the talking... and they're in no way penalized for lying to you (some caveats apply, but mostly this is the case).

It's also like pitting a 1000 player against a GM. They do interrogations for a living. It doesn't matter if you understand the basics and you're smarter than they are... they're going to be able to beat you purely on experience alone.

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I'm done here. Bye.......

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That's very interesting @llama

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So what should you do in a police investigation if you are the murderer?

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why would you want to murder in the first place?

 

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silversnake12 wrote:

So what should you do in a police investigation if you are the murderer?

Same thing you should do if you're not the murderer.

 

 

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Basically if you're 100% innocent and you only tell the truth, it can still get you into legal trouble.

That plus there's no such thing as an exculpatory statement in an interrogation setting. In other words not only is it true that "everything you say can be used against you" but also nothing you say can be used in your favor.

He doesn't get into this, but sort of like a law and order episode there are two main groups... the police which gather evidence, and the courts which weigh the evidence brought before them. In a police interrogation room their function is to gather evidence that can be used to prosecute (you or anyone) they're not interested in the truth in so far as determining guilt, because that will be done by the courts. They're just interested in getting you to say as much as possible, and then it's up to the lawyers to jiu jitsu your statements into convictions... whether that's your own conviction or someone else's.

Which is exactly how an innocent person who doesn't lie can get into trouble (he gives an example in the video)

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