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you d got the final recognition.......and where is the suffering in all this?........is it an ilussion also?

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'Tom'.. Do you, or have you, ever watched any videos, on "YouTube".. {where else !?}, of the 'guru'/ 'be-in-the-moment', expositor, "Eckhardt {sp?} Tolle"? .. Even I find his musings, calming & reassuring ! ..{he probably, has his own Web site !?}.

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yes e tolle talks about these things........but with other words.........what tom says it sound genuine for me

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Anyway where was I?

I was thinking let's separate truth and happiness.

That's clearly the case. The truth doesn't always make us happy does it?

I suppose one would hope that discovering the meaning of life would bring profound delight.

I don't know why particularly we would assume that.

Perhaps it's because of this idea life is fair.

Why oh why do we insist life is fair?

Perhaps because it makes us feel safe to believe that.
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yes i think so..........but if you discoverd you are love, that should not bring you an eternal happiness?

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Suffering. Well pleasure and pain exist within nature. If you mean suffering in terms of existential crisis I'm working that through myself!
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yes if we are love why is that exist the suffering?.........that i dont understand it

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I've heard a little of his words. I can't say I was reached particularly.

Carolina it brings me faith in myself.

I see in others this innate love too and I trust them.

Trust comes from within. We have to believe in ourselves before we believe in others.
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That's a good point.

Why don't we act with love and care?

Perhaps because we are frightened.

It's true the opposite of love is fear. We don't help because we are afraid.
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yes you see in others what you see first inside you

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It's tough to love sometimes too. Painful. Uncomfortable.
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where is the fear come from?

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Beautiful Carolina.

By the way I love all the photos I've seen of you from the beginning
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I'll catch you later babe
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you make me laugh.........see you

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The dictating 'Author' of the 'Good Book' put it, Better, than any 'mortal' human could - And, understandably, so ! ..{aint that a 'Mommas & the Poppas', song !?}.

 

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A basically agree Ed. Love and fear are a part of who we naturally are.
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I find though when we let it be and be our natural selves we love.
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I don t know about that Tom ...

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yes but it is difficult with all the conditioning