Has Light got a decay factor?
SORRY fieldsofforce; nothing you say is correct If time and distance are discrete. You might as well work on that problem FIRST. It's silly to state math and your theories if the MATH IS WRONG !!! (or you will go on infinitely)
Big bang theory and the steady state theories are both theories. There is no wrong answer, but I tend to go with the big bang theory. I don't think that the universe is infinite, it must be finite to some bounds.
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"From particle experiments, it is known that neutrinos are very light. This means that they easily move at speeds close to the speed of light. For this reason, dark matter made from neutrinos is termed "hot dark matter". The problem is that being fast moving, the neutrinos would tend to have spread out evenly in the universe before cosmological expansion made them cold enough to congregate in clumps. This would cause the part of dark matter made of neutrinos to be smeared out and unable to cause the large galactic structures that we see. "
I found this paragraph buried in the article relating to Dark Matter and how Neutinos could go a long way to explaining the "missing mass". Though they are very light there are trillions of them passing through you as we speak. So their enormous numbers can add up to significant mass in total for a whole galaxy.
The problem though is that they only work as an explanation for Dark Matter if the universe isn't expanding which would be consistant with the Unified Model but not with the Big Bang.
Once again we see the observed data pointing away from a Big Bang model. But of course it's not proof for the Unified Model...just interesting.
Taken from Wiki ...
"From particle experiments, it is known that neutrinos are very light. This means that they easily move at speeds close to the speed of light. For this reason, dark matter made from neutrinos is termed "hot dark matter". The problem is that being fast moving, the neutrinos would tend to have spread out evenly in the universe before cosmological expansion made them cold enough to congregate in clumps. This would cause the part of dark matter made of neutrinos to be smeared out and unable to cause the large galactic structures that we see. "
I found this paragraph buried in the article relating to Dark Matter and how Neutinos could go a long way to explaining the "missing mass". Though they are very light there are trillions of them passing through you as we speak. So their enormous numbers can add up to significant mass in total for a whole galaxy.
The problem though is that they only work as an explanation for Dark Matter if the universe isn't expanding which would be consistant with the Unified Model but not with the Big Bang.
Once again we see the observed data pointing away from a Big Bang model. But of course it's not proof for the Unified Model...just interesting.
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Neutrinos are Baryonic Matter. They interact with light. Baryonic Matter is only 5% of all the energy/matter in the universe
The recent discovery of a galaxy without any apparent 'Dark Matter' suggests that no form of Neutrino can answer the 'missing mass' problem as ALL galaxies must have neutrinos.
The latest data https://www.sciencealert.com/universe-expanding-hubble-constant-record-discrepancy-latest-estimate-cepheid-brightness indicate there are 'fundamental' problems with the Big Bang Theory. It just isn't compatible with the new data.
The latest data https://www.sciencealert.com/universe-expanding-hubble-constant-record-discrepancy-latest-estimate-cepheid-brightness indicate there are 'fundamental' problems with the Big Bang Theory. It just isn't compatible with the new data.
Grigori Perelman's Geometrization Theorem and Poincare Theorem proofs proves that the universe in infinite. It has no bounds and therefore the Big Bang Theory that originates at a singularity does not allow for an infinite universe.
Sorry fieldofforce; Ghostess Lola is correct. We make math up and it DOES NOT fit our universe. It's wrong from the first step. Time and Distance are not continuous. They are discrete. So start there. OR tell us that is not TRUE !!! You forgot to answer.
Sorry fieldofforce; Ghostess Lola is correct. We make math up and it DOES NOT fit our universe. It's wrong from the first step. Time and Distance are not continuous. They are discrete. So start there. OR tell us that is not TRUE !!! You forgot to answer.
No, I did not forget to answer. Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown is real. The mathematical proof verifies that it is a real observation. The Nobel Committee does not hand out Nobel Prizes frivolously. Do some digging on the internet about Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown and then come and talk to me.
Using your math, which is wrong is a silly way to prove you are right. And you did not answer, are time and distance continuous or discrete ?
Using your math, which is wrong is a silly way to prove you are right. And you did not answer, are time and distance continuous or discrete ?
Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown is a physics fact. In other words, we have the mathematical proof, we have the observation, and finally we have the peer review confirmation. And finally we have 3 Nobel Prizes that you can stick in a pig's eye. Check it out and then come back to me with your lame ass time and distance continuous or discrete?
You DIDN'T answer continuous or discrete ? If you CAN'T, ask your NOBEL friends. NOT ONE will answer continuous or discrete. NOT ONE, but try anyway.
Ok, Einstein. You of course know everything. The rest of these idiots. What do they know about physics or math. In RPaulB we trust.
Oh ! I can easily say both TIME and Distance are discrete. "Time and Distance are discrete", just 5 little words, easy. Nothing to it. NO ONE else can even answer, even try, even care, even understand. That's not my fault.
Oh ! I can easily say both TIME and Distance are discrete. "Time and Distance are discrete", just 5 little words, easy. Nothing to it. NO ONE else can even answer, even try, even care, even understand. That's not my fault.
Humpty dumpty sat on a wall...
Oh ! I can easily say both TIME and Distance are discrete. "Time and Distance are discrete", just 5 little words, easy. Nothing to it. NO ONE else can even answer, even try, even care, even understand. That's not my fault.
Humpty dumpty sat on a wall...
I was saving the download below just in case you couldn't be redirected to the correct perspective. If you don't read the below under the stupid excuse of tltr you will miss the continuous assertion in Einstein's Relativity.
Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown is the answer to your question: Are Time and Distance(space) discrete. See if you can figure out the how.
Is WEDU your local station?
Unification
Are Space and Time Discrete or Continuous?
on Thu, 01 Oct 2015
Split a mile in half, you get half a mile. Split the half mile, you get a quarter, and on and on, until you’ve carved out a length far smaller than the diameter of an atom. Can this slicing continue indefinitely, or will you eventually reach a limit: a smallest hatch mark on the universal ruler?
The success of some contemporary theories of quantum gravity may hinge on the answer to this question. But the puzzle goes back at least 2500 years, to the paradoxes thought up by the Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea, which remained mysterious from the 5th century BC until the early 1800s. Though the paradoxes have now been solved, the question they posed—is there a smallest unit of length, beyond which you can’t divide any further?—persists.
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The most famous of Zeno’s paradoxes is that of Achilles and the Tortoise in a race. The tortoise gets a head start on the faster-running Achilles. Achilles should quickly catch up—at least that’s what would happen in a real-world footrace. But Zeno argued that Achilles will never pass over the tortoise, because in the time it takes for Achilles to reach the tortoise’s starting point, the tortoise too will have moved forward. While Achilles pursues the tortoise to cover this additional distance, the tortoise moves yet another bit. Try as he might, Achilles only ever reaches the tortoise’s position after the animal has already left it, and he never catches up.
Obviously, in real life, Achilles wins the race. So, Zeno argued, the assumptions underlying the scenario must be wrong. Specifically, Zeno believed that space is not indefinitely divisible but has a smallest possible unit of length. This allows Achilles to make a final step surpassing the distance to the tortoise, thereby resolving the paradox.
It took more than two thousand years to develop the necessary mathematics, but today we know that Zeno’s argument was plainly wrong. After mathematicians understood how to sum an infinite number of progressively smaller steps, they calculated the exact moment Achilles surpasses the tortoise, proving that it does not take forever, even if space is indefinitely divisible.
Zeno’s paradox is solved, but the question of whether there is a smallest unit of length hasn’t gone away. Today, some physicists think that the existence of an absolute minimum length could help avoid another kind of logical nonsense; the infinities that arise when physicists make attempts at a quantum version of Einstein’s General Relativity, that is, a theory of “quantum gravity.” When physicists attempted to calculate probabilities in the new theory, the integrals just returned infinity, a result that couldn’t be more useless. In this case, the infinities were not mistakes but demonstrably a consequence of applying the rules of quantum theory to gravity. But by positing a smallest unit of length, just like Zeno did, theorists can reduce the infinities to manageable finite numbers. And one way to get a finite length is to chop up space and time into chunks, thereby making it discrete: Zeno would be pleased.
He would also be confused. While almost all approaches to quantum gravity bring in a minimal length one way or the other, not all approaches do so by means of “discretization”—that is, by “chunking” space and time. In some theories of quantum gravity, the minimal length emerges from a “resolution limit,” without the need of discreteness. Think of studying samples with a microscope, for example. Magnify too much, and you encounter a resolution-limit beyond which images remain blurry. And if you zoom into a digital photo, you eventually see single pixels: further zooming will not reveal any more detail. In both cases there is a limit to resolution, but only in the latter case is it due to discretization.
In these examples the limits could be overcome with better imaging technology; they are not fundamental. But a resolution-limit due to quantum behavior of space-time would be fundamental. It could not be overcome with better technology.
So, a resolution-limit seems necessary to avoid the problem with infinities in the development of quantum gravity. But does space-time remain smooth and continuous even on the shortest distance scales, or does it become coarse and grainy? Researchers cannot agree.
In string theory, for example, resolution is limited by the extension of the strings (roughly speaking, the size of the ball that you could fit the string inside), not because there is anything discrete. In a competing theory called loop quantum gravity, on the other hand, space and time are broken into discrete blocks, which gives rise to a smallest possible length (expressed in units of the Planck length, about 10-35 meters), area and volume of space-time—the fundamental building blocks of our universe. Another approach to quantum gravity, “asymptotically safe gravity,” has a resolution-limit but no discretization. Yet another approach, “causal sets,” explicitly relies on discretization.
And that’s not all. Einstein taught us that space and time are joined in one entity: space-time. Most physicists honor Einstein’s insight, and so most approaches to quantum gravity take space and time to either both be continuous or both be discrete. But some dissidents argue that only space or only time should be discrete.
So how can physicists find out whether space-time is discrete or continuous? Directly measuring the discrete structure is impossible because it is too tiny. But according to some models, the discreteness should affect how particles move through space. It is a miniscule effect, but it adds up for particles that travel over very long distances. If true, this would distort images from far-away stellar objects, either by smearing out the image or by tearing apart the arrival times of particles that were emitted simultaneously and would otherwise arrive on Earth simultaneously. Astrophysicists have looked for both of these signals, but they haven’t found the slightest evidence for graininess.
Even if the direct effects on particle motion are unmeasurable, defects in the discrete structure could still be observable. Think of space-time like a diamond. Even rare imperfections in atomic lattices spoil a crystal’s ability to transport light in an orderly way, which will ruin a diamond’s clarity. And if the price tags at your jewelry store tell you one thing, it’s that perfection is exceedingly rare. It’s the same with space-time. If space-time is discrete, there should be imperfections. And even if rare, these imperfections will affect the passage of light through space. No one has looked for this yet, and I’m planning to start such a search in the coming months.
Next to guiding the development of a theory of quantum gravity, finding evidence for space-time discreteness—or ruling it out!—would also be a big step towards solving a modern-day paradox: the black hole information loss problem, posed by Stephen Hawking in 1974. We know that black holes can only store so much information, which is another indication for a resolution-limit. But we do not know exactly how black holes encode the information of what fell inside. A discrete structure would provide us with elementary storage units.
Black hole information loss is a vexing paradox that Zeno would have appreciated. Let us hope we will not have to wait 2000 years for a solution.
Go Deeper
Editor and author’s picks for further reading
arXiv: Minimal Length Scale Scenarios for Quantum Gravity
Sabine Hossenfelder’s detailed look at the past, present, and future of the question, is there a shortest length?
Fermilab Physics in a Nutshell: Planck length, minimal length?
Don Lincoln explains the Planck length and why it’s thought to be the smallest possible length.
The Nature of Reality: Do Black Holes Destroy Information?
A primer on the black hole information paradox.
Physics Today: Questions and answers with Amit Hagar
An interview with philosopher of science Amit Hagar, author of “Discrete or Continuous?: The Quest for Fundamental Length in Modern Physics.”
Piece of JUNK ! (most likely because they aren't even sure). If you are going to talk about Discrete Time and Distance, (not space) you must do it with EVERY statement being CORRECT. This must have 100 errors in it. WAY too many to list and answer here. But let me give you just one, The article states the smallest distance is Planck's length ( Lp, 10**-35m); The smallest distance is Lp*R*R or 10**-75m, or the E Tiedom. The article is NOT even close. One would be off less if one said the smallest distance is a meter. See how silly the article is ?
Piece of JUNK ! (most likely because they aren't even sure). If you are going to talk about Discrete Time and Distance, (not space) you must do it with EVERY statement being CORRECT. This must have 100 errors in it. WAY too many to list and answer here. But let me give you just one, The article states the smallest distance is Planck's length ( Lp, 10**-35m); The smallest distance is Lp*R*R or 10**-75m, or the E Tiedom. The article is NOT even close. One would be off less if one said the smallest distance is a meter. See how silly the article is ?
As usual you don't look into Spontaneous Symmetry Breakdown. But let's try another perspective. Grigori Perelman's proof of Thurston's Geometric Theorem proves that the universe is infinite. The Geometric Theorem is the field of mathematics that tries to determine the shape of the universe. Perelman's proof proves that it is impossible to determine the shape of the universe. Infinity has no bounds. That is why time and distance cannot be discrete. Because in order for that to be correct there must be bounds to the universe, and bounds are impossible in an infinite universe. Einstein's Relativity proves that time and distance are continuous. Space/Time is the 4th Dimension.
Anticipating your response, because I am sure you didn't read the article, you reject Einstein's Relativity. As I posted before Relativity is not to be lightly dismissed. But you are one of those that wants to do that. Do you see how silly you are?





NO !....math itself is just a concept. Just like what u called zero. Nature doesn't care about math, right ? We made math up 2try2 explain the U & everything in it !
4 only exists here on earth as 2 + 2 but doesn't = 4 as we get farther & farther from Earth.
....on the clock OR on the ruler.
And that's why we can't figure out any important questions.....burp.
I believe they've even made a formula to describe love. Which highlights how 'maths' can delude us into accepting theory which are based on maths when it's mathematical sophistry ...Can maths explain how it's impossible to find a plumber on a sunday? I don't think so. The mathematical construct of the Big Bang is many many factors to the power 10 in error to the observational data but what the hey...!
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The Big BangTheory is wrong. What makes it wrong is the mathematical principle: There are no absolute, and the exception proves the rule.
In addition Grigori Perelman's proof that the universe is infinite makes the Big Bang Theory wrong because absolutes(the singularity) from where the Bib Bang is supposed to originate is mutually exclusive to infinity. Infinity has no origin and no bounds.