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RPaulB
Jul 22, 2018
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#4581

ONE CAN NOT PROVE that time and distance are not discrete by using theories , (proves) that assume time and distance are continuous !!!!!!  So your space/time, 4th D, SSB, GR, infinite, etc. are junk too.   Which also shows you that being SILLY is not so bad if one is RIGHT !!!

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Iknowthemoves
Jul 22, 2018
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#4582

https://astronomynow.com/2018/07/21/planck-confirms-standard-big-bang-model-but-tensions-remain/

Planck now " confirms" the Big Bollox model ..errm well almost, just the odd little quirk and tweak and an answer to The Dark Matter and Dark Energy problems needed to support it . Oh, and the small matter of the HUGE missing energy. Apart from those small niggling little inconveniences we're golden. We also have to ignore the fact that the data also supports ,without the need for Dark Matter and Dark Energy, a Universe infinitely larger than current estimates and significantly older. But hey, as politicians don't really understand any of this stuff funding for the next Dark Matter and Dark Energy research grants is a slam dunk. Not so the James Webb unfortunately. That looks to be grounded for lack of funds permanently at the current rate of burn. 2021 and counting. Conspiracy to stop the truth ?

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fieldsofforce
Jul 22, 2018
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#4583
RPaulB wrote:

ONE CAN NOT PROVE that time and distance are not discrete by using theories , (proves) that assume time and distance are continuous !!!!!!  So your space/time, 4th D, SSB, GR, infinite, etc. are junk too.   Which also shows you that being SILLY is not so bad if one is RIGHT !!!

I would agree with you if you were right!!!!

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fieldsofforce
Jul 22, 2018
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#4584

If time and distance are discrete then bounds are created.  That is NOT  a theory  Infinity has no bounds.  There is a state of energy called entanglement and it also proves that time and distance are continuous. 

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola
Jul 23, 2018
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#4585

And something else ?....if the BB really did happened ?....why can't we get past our Lithium issue ?

This stuff kinda haunts me. So I'm gonna do a recompress under my covers.  'Cuz just reading & talking about all this ?....makes my poor brain just little bit scared.

So good bye everyone - for a few days - *I hope*.

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Iknowthemoves
Jul 23, 2018
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#4586

Now look what your bickering has done. Driven away the one true star who's light did once shine upon us...now gone for ever...or perhaps a few days. Who can tell...only time...and he's not saying...enya said so.

*sigh*

 

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Metar_Taf
Jul 24, 2018
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#4587
Iknowthemoves wrote:

Now look what your bickering has done. Driven away the one true star who's light did once shine upon us...now gone for ever...or perhaps a few days. Who can tell...only time...and he's not saying...enya said so.

*sigh*

 

This forum is dead

The rest lies to theory. The red shift has strong proof of a big bang, which means light has NO decay factor.

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4588

Change is everywhere.  There are 2 types of change:  a. symmetric change and b. asymmetric change.

The initial warping of space/time throughout our entire universe by the mass of energy instantaneously is one form of symmetric change.  The final warping of space/time causes entangled energy which is the 2nd form of symmetric change which operates instantaneously in our universe.  In other words, each entangled pair of subatomic particles communicate instantaneously thru symmetric change no matter how far apart they are in the universe.

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4589

The asymmetric change at the speed of light (speed of causality)called gravity is smaller bodies of matter being pushed down onto larger bodies of matter by warped space.

The instantaneous asymmetric change of one entangled subatomic particle from down spin to top spin or vice versa instantaneously

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KingArthur127
Jul 24, 2018
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#4590
Iknowthemoves wrote:

The decaying photon...as quietly as a diamond changing colour !

 The answer to the question is NO , light doesn't have a detectable decay factor. However it may well have a 'spagetti' factor. Just like you would be spagettified falling into a Black hole light is being spagettified by any gravity well that it leaves. Add to that we are moving away from the Universe because our galaxy is collapsing there is the Red Shift we see.

NO BIG BANG.

 So, in my model anyone within a galaxy would see an expanding Universe but the reality is the opposite. Our space,being inside a galaxy, is contracting making the outside appear to expand. It's contraction is speeding up  so it appears as though the Universe,as a whole, is expanding quicker.  That's it.

edit 22/10/2013 (i'm just putting this synopsis here so I don't lose it.)

We have a much larger and older Steady State Universe than 13.8 billion years with areas of contraction (galaxies) and expansion (voids).

Mass is squeezed out of existance at the centre of galaxies (perhaps also at the centre of stars) and re-emerges in the voids  (white holes) in the form of fundamental particles where there is the least resistance to re-entry.

 They interact with the radiation leached from the areas of galaxies around them and start to create Matter (Hydrogen) through the Higgs Field /Mechanism.

This process continues until the new mass in the voids starts to collapse into stars and galaxies. The galaxies eventually leach away all of their energy and mass and become voids which starts the whole process again with no energy loss so goes on ad infinitum.

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No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts. If you believe doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

 The Unified Model - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/unified-model-of-the-universe

 

Oi mate do you know how to speak english?

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4591
KingArthur127 wrote:
Iknowthemoves wrote:

The decaying photon...as quietly as a diamond changing colour !

 The answer to the question is NO , light doesn't have a detectable decay factor. However it may well have a 'spagetti' factor. Just like you would be spagettified falling into a Black hole light is being spagettified by any gravity well that it leaves. Add to that we are moving away from the Universe because our galaxy is collapsing there is the Red Shift we see.

NO BIG BANG.

 So, in my model anyone within a galaxy would see an expanding Universe but the reality is the opposite. Our space,being inside a galaxy, is contracting making the outside appear to expand. It's contraction is speeding up  so it appears as though the Universe,as a whole, is expanding quicker.  That's it.

edit 22/10/2013 (i'm just putting this synopsis here so I don't lose it.)

We have a much larger and older Steady State Universe than 13.8 billion years with areas of contraction (galaxies) and expansion (voids).

Mass is squeezed out of existance at the centre of galaxies (perhaps also at the centre of stars) and re-emerges in the voids  (white holes) in the form of fundamental particles where there is the least resistance to re-entry.

 They interact with the radiation leached from the areas of galaxies around them and start to create Matter (Hydrogen) through the Higgs Field /Mechanism.

This process continues until the new mass in the voids starts to collapse into stars and galaxies. The galaxies eventually leach away all of their energy and mass and become voids which starts the whole process again with no energy loss so goes on ad infinitum.

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No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts. If you believe doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

 The Unified Model - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/unified-model-of-the-universe

 

Oi mate do you know how to speak english?

From  space/time warped by the mass of energy to, to black holes, singularity, to spaghetification, to wormholes, to the entangled state of energy and randomly back.  It is a process.  But the conservation of energy is still the dominant state.  It is all under the remote control of symmetry.

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RPaulB
Jul 24, 2018
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#4592

Hey guys;  this forum is about photons decaying, (losing energy).  Please stick to that subject.  If you don't beleive that's true than say so.  Please do not go off in 20 other directions.  And some one uses the expression "spaghettified", what's that ? 

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4593
RPaulB wrote:

Hey guys;  this forum is about photons decaying, (losing energy).  Please stick to that subject.  If you don't beleive that's true than say so.  Please do not go off in 20 other directions.  And some one uses the expression "spaghettified", what's that ? 

Once again back to basic physics.  In the beginning there was one force.  Over the eons spontaneous symmetry breakdown has resulted in 5 forces (gravity, the strong force, the weak force,  electricity, and magnetism).  Today thanks to spontaneous symmetry breakdown we know there is gravity, the strong force, and the electroweak (electricity, magnetism, the weak force) force.

Spaghetification is an intermediate phase of energy/matter inside a black hole that eventually leads to entangled energy/matter.

Inside the quantum wave energy must be in the entangled state in order for the photon to seek an infinity of paths to find the path of least action.  Once the quantum wave has been collapsed it is possible through some type of spontaneous symmetry breakdown for the 5 forces to breakdown into some other configuration.  Whether that involves electromagnetic energy is unknown at this time.

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RPaulB
Jul 24, 2018
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#4594

JUNK  Fieldsofforce !!!!  Not ONE word about photon decay.  The decay has nothing to do with the "fact" that there are 5 forces, or black holes, or symmetry.  Photons do not interact with forces,  Black holes don't exist and not enough to interact with all photons and you even said how symmetry works is unknown to you.   JUNK, Fieldsofforce. 

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4595

Obviously you have never heard of Magnetism.  In order for magnetism to work photons have to be exchanged.  The one that is talking junk is you.  Try reading some basic physics books.

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RPaulB
Jul 24, 2018
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#4596

The question is not how are photons exchanged, BUT how do they decay ?   I  am trying to read basic physics  , but you aren't writing any,  just junk !!!

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4597

You can't read basic physics because you don't know any.  Photons are part of electromagnetic energy.

"...Once the quantum wave has been collapsed it is possible through some type of spontaneous symmetry breakdown for the 5 forces to breakdown into some other configuration.  Whether that involves electromagnetic energy is unknown at this time..."

But if it is involved then it might involve the photons therein.

Spontaneous symmetry breakdown is a form of decay

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RPaulB
Jul 24, 2018
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#4598

Might. maybe, could be, are you telling us you do not know ?  Boy that was hard to get out of you.  Anyone else then know how the photon decays over distance ?

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KayakOrca
Jul 24, 2018
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#4599

Three_Ghostess_Lola #4615

And something else ?....if the BB really did happened ?....why can't we get past our Lithium issue ?

This stuff kinda haunts me. So I'm gonna do a recompress under my covers.  'Cuz just reading & talking about all this ?....makes my poor brain just little bit scared.

So good bye everyone - for a few days - *I hope*.

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Fixing the Big Bang Theory’s Lithium Problem

https://aasnova.org/2017/02/15/fixing-the-big-bang-theorys-lithium-problem/

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fieldsofforce
Jul 24, 2018
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#4600
RPaulB wrote:

Might. maybe, could be, are you telling us you do not know ?  Boy that was hard to get out of you.  Anyone else then know how the photon decays over distance ?

You are ultra defensive.  And, get off of time and distance are discrete.  You already know that relativity proves that they are continuous.  Grigori Perelman's proof proves that the universe is infinite.  Time and distance CANNOT be discrete as that creates bounds.  Infinity has no bounds.  Get off of that.